Rule (law), something predetermined, is given authority
over our 'Feeling' of what is right or wrong in a here and now
situation.
Until we change that, we're going down the tube. -Tink

Well the appointment of Sotomayor does exactly that.  I'm sorry you
see that as a good thing.

dj



On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Tinker<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "The rule of law needs to be returned to the American people"
>
> First, it should read 'the people of the world'.
> "The rule of law" has never been in the hands of the people, to be
> returned. Since the beginning of civilization laws have been
> established to "rule" the people. The wonderful idea, "of the people,
> by the people and for the people", has been and will continue to be
> consumed by the first part, unless the system (pattern) is changed.
>
> "The rule of law" is at the bottom line in the decision making process
> of mankind. Rule (law), something predetermined, is given authority
> over our 'Feeling' of what is right or wrong in a here and now
> situation.
> Until we change that, we're going down the tube.
>
> peace & Love
>
> On Jul 3, 6:24 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Don this is a very important document along with the bill of rights. On the
>> 4th of July we need to examine how they have been violated by any
>> administration especially the Bush administration over his term in office,
>> examine the patriot act for violations of those basic rights.  and the
>> activities of all government agencies and corporations for violations and
>> infringing on these rights.
>>
>> The rule of law needs to be returned to the American people getting them out
>> from under the oppressive rule of the corporations. it needs to be one man
>> one vote, with no super votes.. Corporations need to be stripped of their
>> rights as citizens. refusing them super citizenship. When corporations
>> commit a felony (and they do) they need to be stripped of all legal
>> protection exposing the share holders of that corporation to the full extent
>> of damages for the crimes their corporations commit. No one should be
>> allowed to profit from the commission of crimes.
>>
>> Taxes need to be implemented so that all people pay according to their
>> means, translated the more you make the more you pay and rightly so.
>> Corporations moving money over seas need to have that money taxed so thy pay
>> their fair share of taxes.
>>
>> When these start to unfold then the USA will be the last great hope. as it
>> is it is simple , I am saddened to say is counted among the failed states.
>> Allan
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Ya know, this is really just one big, fat, apology...
>>
>> > IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
>> > The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
>>
>> > When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people
>> > to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another
>> > and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal
>> > station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them,
>> > a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should
>> > declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
>>
>> > We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
>> > equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
>> > Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of
>> > Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted
>> > among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the
>> > governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive
>> > of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish
>> > it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such
>> > principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall
>> > seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence,
>> > indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be
>> > changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience
>> > hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are
>> > sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which
>> > they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations,
>> > pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them
>> > under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to
>> > throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future
>> > security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies;
>> > and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their
>> > former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great
>> > Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having
>> > in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these
>> > States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
>>
>> > He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary
>> > for the public good.
>>
>> > He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing
>> > importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should
>> > be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend
>> > to them.
>>
>> > He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large
>> > districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of
>> > Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and
>> > formidable to tyrants only.
>>
>> > He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual,
>> > uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public
>> > Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with
>> > his measures.
>>
>> > He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with
>> > manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
>>
>> > He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause
>> > others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of
>> > Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise;
>> > the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of
>> > invasion from without, and convulsions within.
>>
>> > He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that
>> > purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners;
>> > refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and
>> > raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
>>
>> > He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent
>> > to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
>>
>> > He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their
>> > offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
>>
>> > He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of
>> > Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
>>
>> > He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the
>> > Consent of our legislatures.
>>
>> > He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to
>> > the Civil Power.
>>
>> > He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to
>> > our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to
>> > their Acts of pretended Legislation:
>>
>> > For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
>>
>> > For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders
>> > which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
>>
>> > For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
>>
>> > For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
>>
>> > For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
>>
>> > For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
>>
>> > For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring
>> > Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging
>> > its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit
>> > instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies
>>
>> > For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and
>> > altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
>>
>> > For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested
>> > with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
>>
>> > He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his
>> > Protection and waging War against us.
>>
>> > He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and
>> > destroyed the lives of our people.
>>
>> > He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to
>> > compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun
>> > with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the
>> > most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized
>> > nation.
>>
>> > He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas
>> > to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of
>> > their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
>>
>> > He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured
>> > to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian
>> > Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction
>> > of all ages, sexes and conditions.
>>
>> > In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in
>> > the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only
>> > by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every
>> > act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free
>> > people.
>>
>> > Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We
>> > have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to
>> > extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of
>> > the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have
>> > appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured
>> > them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations,
>> > which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence.
>> > They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity.
>> > We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our
>> > Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in
>> > War, in Peace Friends.
>>
>> > We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in
>> > General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the
>> > world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by
>> > Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and
>> > declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free
>> > and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to
>> > the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and
>> > the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and
>> > that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War,
>> > conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all
>> > other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And
>> > for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance
>>
>> ...
>>
>> read more »
> >
>

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