I don't know how you made that connection, but it ain't none of mine. All I said was "rule overrules right" with more words. Until we change that, we're going down the tube.
peace & Love On Jul 3, 6:22 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > Rule (law), something predetermined, is given authority > over our 'Feeling' of what is right or wrong in a here and now > situation. > Until we change that, we're going down the tube. -Tink > > Well the appointment of Sotomayor does exactly that. I'm sorry you > see that as a good thing. > > dj > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Tinker<[email protected]> wrote: > > > "The rule of law needs to be returned to the American people" > > > First, it should read 'the people of the world'. > > "The rule of law" has never been in the hands of the people, to be > > returned. Since the beginning of civilization laws have been > > established to "rule" the people. The wonderful idea, "of the people, > > by the people and for the people", has been and will continue to be > > consumed by the first part, unless the system (pattern) is changed. > > > "The rule of law" is at the bottom line in the decision making process > > of mankind. Rule (law), something predetermined, is given authority > > over our 'Feeling' of what is right or wrong in a here and now > > situation. > > Until we change that, we're going down the tube. > > > peace & Love > > > On Jul 3, 6:24 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Don this is a very important document along with the bill of rights. On the > >> 4th of July we need to examine how they have been violated by any > >> administration especially the Bush administration over his term in office, > >> examine the patriot act for violations of those basic rights. and the > >> activities of all government agencies and corporations for violations and > >> infringing on these rights. > > >> The rule of law needs to be returned to the American people getting them > >> out > >> from under the oppressive rule of the corporations. it needs to be one man > >> one vote, with no super votes.. Corporations need to be stripped of their > >> rights as citizens. refusing them super citizenship. When corporations > >> commit a felony (and they do) they need to be stripped of all legal > >> protection exposing the share holders of that corporation to the full > >> extent > >> of damages for the crimes their corporations commit. No one should be > >> allowed to profit from the commission of crimes. > > >> Taxes need to be implemented so that all people pay according to their > >> means, translated the more you make the more you pay and rightly so. > >> Corporations moving money over seas need to have that money taxed so thy > >> pay > >> their fair share of taxes. > > >> When these start to unfold then the USA will be the last great hope. as it > >> is it is simple , I am saddened to say is counted among the failed states. > >> Allan > > >> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Ya know, this is really just one big, fat, apology... > > >> > IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776 > >> > The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America > > >> > When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people > >> > to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another > >> > and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal > >> > station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, > >> > a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should > >> > declare the causes which impel them to the separation. > > >> > We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created > >> > equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable > >> > Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of > >> > Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted > >> > among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the > >> > governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive > >> > of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish > >> > it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such > >> > principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall > >> > seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, > >> > indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be > >> > changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience > >> > hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are > >> > sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which > >> > they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, > >> > pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them > >> > under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to > >> > throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future > >> > security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; > >> > and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their > >> > former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great > >> > Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having > >> > in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these > >> > States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. > > >> > He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary > >> > for the public good. > > >> > He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing > >> > importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should > >> > be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend > >> > to them. > > >> > He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large > >> > districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of > >> > Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and > >> > formidable to tyrants only. > > >> > He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, > >> > uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public > >> > Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with > >> > his measures. > > >> > He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with > >> > manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. > > >> > He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause > >> > others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of > >> > Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; > >> > the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of > >> > invasion from without, and convulsions within. > > >> > He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that > >> > purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; > >> > refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and > >> > raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands. > > >> > He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent > >> > to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers. > > >> > He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their > >> > offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. > > >> > He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of > >> > Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance. > > >> > He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the > >> > Consent of our legislatures. > > >> > He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to > >> > the Civil Power. > > >> > He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to > >> > our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to > >> > their Acts of pretended Legislation: > > >> > For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: > > >> > For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders > >> > which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States: > > >> > For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world: > > >> > For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: > > >> > For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury: > > >> > For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences: > > >> > For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring > >> > Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging > >> > its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit > >> > instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies > > >> > For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and > >> > altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments: > > >> > For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested > >> > with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever. > > >> > He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his > >> > Protection and waging War against us. > > >> > He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and > >> > destroyed the lives of our people. > > >> > He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to > >> > compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun > >> > with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the > >> > most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized > >> > nation. > > >> > He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas > >> > to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of > >> > their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands. > > >> > He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured > >> > to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian > >> > Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction > >> > of all ages, sexes and conditions. > > >> > In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in > >> > the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only > >> > by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every > >> > act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
