"...The law represents what MOST people think is right, or at least that is it's purpose. " - dj
Can we dispense with the first part of this? Clearly it is not nor ever has been the case. On Jul 4, 12:55 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > Personally I for one do not > > > even recall a single song that Jackson did. -iam > > That confirms it. You are a Visitor. Since you come in peace I won't > turn you over to the authorities. > > dj > > > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 2:27 AM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> wrote: > > Now Obama is fleeing to Russia rather than appear at > > Jackson's funeral- let him take his i-pod of tunes. > > > Why would Obama attending the funeral of a pedophile be more important than > > flying to Russia to attend to national affairs? Personally I for one do not > > even recall a single song that Jackson did. > > Allan > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:16 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Rule has often meant control of populations by religion or laws/ > >> documents. It has been dictated through power. At this point, I don't > >> believe my government or fellow voters have my best interests at > >> heart- nor MSM- nor celebrities. On the other hand, I feel blessed to > >> have been born an American and had the courage of my immigrant > >> grandparents. How unlike the newcomers those homesteaders, loggers, > >> miners seem. The challenge of early Christians and barbarians doomed a > >> great empire. The barons challenged John I with the Magna Carta. Henry > >> VIII challeged the RCC. The middle class challeged aristocracy. We > >> challenged the British Empire- though we said we would save it down > >> the line. Now Obama is fleeing to Russia rather than appear at > >> Jackson's funeral- let him take his i-pod of tunes. > > >> On Jul 3, 2:52 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > "The rule of law needs to be returned to the American people" > > >> > First, it should read 'the people of the world'. > >> > "The rule of law" has never been in the hands of the people, to be > >> > returned. Since the beginning of civilization laws have been > >> > established to "rule" the people. The wonderful idea, "of the people, > >> > by the people and for the people", has been and will continue to be > >> > consumed by the first part, unless the system (pattern) is changed. > > >> > "The rule of law" is at the bottom line in the decision making process > >> > of mankind. Rule (law), something predetermined, is given authority > >> > over our 'Feeling' of what is right or wrong in a here and now > >> > situation. > >> > Until we change that, we're going down the tube. > > >> > peace & Love > > >> > On Jul 3, 6:24 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > Don this is a very important document along with the bill of rights. > >> > > On the > >> > > 4th of July we need to examine how they have been violated by any > >> > > administration especially the Bush administration over his term in > >> > > office, > >> > > examine the patriot act for violations of those basic rights. and the > >> > > activities of all government agencies and corporations for violations > >> > > and > >> > > infringing on these rights. > > >> > > The rule of law needs to be returned to the American people getting > >> > > them out > >> > > from under the oppressive rule of the corporations. it needs to be one > >> > > man > >> > > one vote, with no super votes.. Corporations need to be stripped of > >> > > their > >> > > rights as citizens. refusing them super citizenship. When corporations > >> > > commit a felony (and they do) they need to be stripped of all legal > >> > > protection exposing the share holders of that corporation to the full > >> > > extent > >> > > of damages for the crimes their corporations commit. No one should be > >> > > allowed to profit from the commission of crimes. > > >> > > Taxes need to be implemented so that all people pay according to their > >> > > means, translated the more you make the more you pay and rightly so. > >> > > Corporations moving money over seas need to have that money taxed so > >> > > thy pay > >> > > their fair share of taxes. > > >> > > When these start to unfold then the USA will be the last great hope. > >> > > as it > >> > > is it is simple , I am saddened to say is counted among the failed > >> > > states. > >> > > Allan > > >> > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > Ya know, this is really just one big, fat, apology... > > >> > > > IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776 > >> > > > The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America > > >> > > > When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one > >> > > > people > >> > > > to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with > >> > > > another > >> > > > and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal > >> > > > station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle > >> > > > them, > >> > > > a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they > >> > > > should > >> > > > declare the causes which impel them to the separation. > > >> > > > We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created > >> > > > equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain > >> > > > unalienable > >> > > > Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of > >> > > > Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted > >> > > > among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the > >> > > > governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive > >> > > > of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish > >> > > > it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such > >> > > > principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall > >> > > > seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, > >> > > > indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be > >> > > > changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all > >> > > > experience > >> > > > hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are > >> > > > sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which > >> > > > they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and > >> > > > usurpations, > >> > > > pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them > >> > > > under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to > >> > > > throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their > >> > > > future > >> > > > security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; > >> > > > and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their > >> > > > former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of > >> > > > Great > >> > > > Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all > >> > > > having > >> > > > in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these > >> > > > States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. > > >> > > > He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary > >> > > > for the public good. > > >> > > > He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and > >> > > > pressing > >> > > > importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent > >> > > > should > >> > > > be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to > >> > > > attend > >> > > > to them. > > >> > > > He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large > >> > > > districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right > >> > > > of > >> > > > Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and > >> > > > formidable to tyrants only. > > >> > > > He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, > >> > > > uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public > >> > > > Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with > >> > > > his measures. > > >> > > > He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with > >> > > > manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. > > >> > > > He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause > >> > > > others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of > >> > > > Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their > >> > > > exercise; > >> > > > the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of > >> > > > invasion from without, and convulsions within. > > >> > > > He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for > >> > > > that > >> > > > purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; > >> > > > refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and > >> > > > raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands. > > >> > > > He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his > >> > > > Assent > >> > > > to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers. > > >> > > > He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of > >> > > > their > >> > > > offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. > > >> > > > He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of > >> > > > Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance. > > >> > > > He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the > >> > > > Consent of our legislatures. > > >> > > > He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior > >> > > > to > >> > > > the Civil Power. > > >> > > > He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign > >> > > > to > >> > > > our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent > >> > > > to > >> > > > their Acts of pretended Legislation: > > >> > > > For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: > > >> > > > For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders > >> > > > which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States: > > >> > > > For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world: > > >> > > > For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: > > >> > > > For depriving us in many cases, of the > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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