Surly any type of love is a beautiful thing?  Umm unless it is
peadophilic love, or love of violence.  Okay okay scracth that one,
bad Idea.

Yeah Dipu what do you mean?

On 10 July, 00:15, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> International communication can be very difficult.  Can you please
> explain how your reply to Molly's post is relevant??
>
> You are replying to a post that poses pertinent wording about beauty
> and concept but which excludes any reference to love.
>
> So what do you mean by "any type of love"??
>
> Please explain.
>
> On Jul 9, 2:16 pm, dipu banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> >  any type of love
>
> > On 7/10/09, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Boring beauty.  Quiet a concept.  Can beauty be boring?
>
> > > On Jul 9, 9:03 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Einstein and others drew relativity from obscure experiments to glean
> > > > the size of molecules and the movement of pollen grains in solution.
> > > > Beauty tends to fit with experiment and eventual communication beyond
> > > > the almost non-verbal beholder's eye.  It may well bore most people
> > > > and end up being taught in school chemistry.
>
> > > > On 8 July, 20:23, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Perhaps another case of beauty being in the eye of the beholder.
> > > > > Music of a particular artist may require relativity of taste.  Music
> > > > > as an art form, absolutely beautiful.  There are a hell of alot of
> > > > > people who found Jackson's work beautiful, as evidenced in hundreds of
> > > > > thousands, if not millions of people all over the world dancing and
> > > > > singing his music after he died.  How many people in your lifetime
> > > > > could evoke such a global response, opinion aside.
>
> > > > > On Jul 8, 3:57 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Ian really, the Caravaggio comparison is pertinent but only in the
> > > > > > context of that era and Jackson in this era.  Equally they crossed
> > > the
> > > > > > line, creating a frenzy of mind boggling spectacle.  I must say that
> > > > > > your comment "Michael Jackson produced a lot of popular PRODUCT, but
> > > > > > very little art." is indeed a consequence of tunnel vision.  Of
> > > course
> > > > > > if you can produce evidence of another artist that issued such
> > > > > > extraordinary talent preceding that of Jackson, I, as well as 
> > > > > > others,
> > > > > > would concede to your view.  I personally have no interest, never
> > > had,
> > > > > > in the Jackson attraction.  I am only motivated by your lack of
> > > > > > recognition of the innovation, regardless of the underlying product
> > > > > > value, of such motivation in artistic influence as well as the perks
> > > > > > within the industry (for the sharks).  Art is something of a 
> > > > > > misnomer
> > > > > > in that people will and are paying thousands of dollars for
> > > > > > contemporary "Graffiti" art, which for me as an artist styled in
> > > > > > Renaissance period art view as pure "garbage".  So in that sense,
> > > your
> > > > > > view of Micheal Jackson as less than an art form is reflective of
> > > your
> > > > > > lack of understanding what "art" is all about.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 8, 2:19 am, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > 2009/7/7 frantheman <[email protected]>
>
> > > > > > > > Behind all the weirdness (perhaps even perversion) and
> > > > > > > > the disgusting commercial hype surrounding his death, that was
> > > what
> > > > > > > > Michael Jackson was at his best. There have been other similar
> > > > > > > > artistic wonders throughout history - Caravaggio comes to mind.
>
> > > > > > > Did you just compare Michael Jackson to Caravaggio? :)
>
> > > > > > > Whilst I think there is much artistic merit in music, I think it 
> > > > > > > is
> > > almost
> > > > > > > always missing from the mainstream. Michael Jackson produced a lot
> > > of
> > > > > > > popular PRODUCT, but very little art. He also understood, for a
> > > time, how to
> > > > > > > market that product as good as anyone. This was made remarkably
> > > easier by
> > > > > > > the team of people around him. The album 'Thriller', whilst a good
> > > album,
> > > > > > > initially looked to have only been a minor hit for him. The first
> > > single,
> > > > > > > 'The Girl Is Mine', did okay, but didn't set the world on fire.
> > > However,
> > > > > > > over the next three years Jackson marketed the hell out of that
> > > album. He
> > > > > > > bled it dry, releasing nine songs from it. And of course, that
> > > $500,000
> > > > > > > video (which he did not choreograph, by the way) was a stroke of
> > > marketing
> > > > > > > genius.
>
> > > > > > > To call Michael Jackson an artist deeply devalues the word. I 
> > > > > > > don't
> > > just say
> > > > > > > that because I am a music snob (I freely admit I am and that it is
> > > a factor
> > > > > > > here). I think the roles of the musician and artist are almost
> > > always in a
> > > > > > > state of conflict; such is the nature of a creative person 
> > > > > > > peddling
> > > > > > > commodities (CDs, etc) and being subjected to commercial pressure.
> > > However,
> > > > > > > I think the continuing decline of the music industry's business
> > > model --
> > > > > > > coupled with the reduced cost of home recording -- is a great 
> > > > > > > thing
> > > for the
> > > > > > > "art" in music to take a more prominent role.
>
> > > > > > > Ian- Hide quoted text -
>
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