Tink, I am going to be very very blunt. I personally don't buy your story I think it is a work of fiction and I am going to leave it at that. So don't push the issue with me or I might look into it in the future and do some inquiring of which I will receive no reply but if what you wrote is true you don't want to challenge me as I am only 12 km away from where I will ask my inquiries. Remember Tink, I am American by birth not a Dutchie. Allan
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for your concern my friend, I wouldn't trade my Life's history > with ANYBODY. I have an extraordinary wealth of Life experience. That > little story just touched on a particular line of events that had led > to a point of reconstruction of Life knowledge. There's a ton of more > hard times and trials that you all could cry about, that I laugh at > and appreciate the knowledge gained. > > "Tinker > To say that any portion of energy is confined to a positive > attribution is qualifying it in such a way as to negate thousands of > other aspects of the cosmos, theoretical as well as empirical." - SD > > No sir, it is simply identifying a specific for consideration. > > "Description of collectivism and cosmic energy may be ineffable to say > the least, especially when considering that some of the most brilliant > minds in the world have yet to come to terms with it." - SD > > Does that mean, no one can progress further? Can we not take the > knowledge of brilliant minds from different places, bring them > together and add them up? The sum will be greater than the parts, yes? > > "I certainly don't have much of an understanding of it other than from > the personal > experiences with it." - SD > > If you work with me you will have :-) > > "Still we can move forward to explore humanity's relationship with it, > the corresponding effects of it and overall the deeper understanding > of it." > > Forward Ho!!! > > peace & Love > > On Jul 12, 11:15 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > First off, in a way I'm sorry your history has been laid out in > > clothes line form, though I must say that I have had in the past > > certain feelings about the history. I remember several of my posts > > suggested that you drop the yesterdays and I felt you had much time > > spent in contemplation. I pointed to riddles as your forte and now > > see reasons behind leaving out specifics. I don't view in any way > > your life history as any detriment to society, the world or yourself > > and in fact feel that it is pertinent the wisdom thread in that your > > time and experience may be part of what we/some call wisdom and it > > should be explored in the light. > > > > As far as the bltr link I have reiterate my reply to you back in April > > before you presented the link and as a response to your > > statement....................... > > > > > > The sum total of energy involved in mankind's interactions on and > with > > > > the planet Earth, is the subset. > > > > The energy is cosmic energy. > > > > > > I believe that within the subset free will allows us to act > > > > 'negatively'. Our collective intelligence is a 'positive' > metaphysical > > > > balance that maintains the cosmic balance within the subset. > <<<Tinker > > > > On Apr 21, 10:49 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I don't know, it seems like a conglomeration of many aspects with much > > > broader meanings. Perhaps as a synopsis it could pass as a viable > > > statement. Free will allows us to act either way and so the > > > collective intelligence is not confined to either polarity. One can > > > effect negative change equally as in voodoo or witchcraft. To posit > > > that collective intelligence is a 'positive' metaphysical balance that > > > "maintains" anything seems farfetched. Fact is, simple observation > > > reveals that if anything there is more unbalance within the subset due > > > to the incongruity of individual understanding of cosmic energy > > > existing around us. If anything needs maintenance it IS the > > > collective intelligence not cosmic balance. > > > > Tinker > > To say that any portion of energy is confined to a positive > > attribution is qualifying it in such a way as to negate thousands of > > other aspects of the cosmos, theoretical as well as empirical. > > Description of collectivism and cosmic energy may be ineffable to say > > the least, especially when considering that some of the most brilliant > > minds in the world have yet to come to terms with it. I certainly > > don't have much of an understanding of it other than from the personal > > experiences with it. > > > > Still we can move forward to explore humanity's relationship with it, > > the corresponding effects of it and overall the deeper understanding > > of it. > > > > On Jul 11, 7:18 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thank you Slip. > > > I've had high hopes of you from the beginning. > > > I've recently told that I've been working on this for over eight > > > years. I have also told that I have been impeccably honest. > > > The times I said "I can't" were true in the fact that I was following > > > a plan trying another way of breaking through. "I do have a pretty > > > sure idea of what will Not work.", comes from the eight years of > > > experience. The pattern of animosity developing and my relating it to > > > 'the fear of the unknown" is also well grounded with repeated similar > > > experiences. > > > > > The plan has run its course. The results were absolutely typical, > > > until yesterday. > > > Lee asked the question, and I felt (hoped and prayed) that you were on > > > the verge of asking, and you did today. > > > I sent him this link and asked that he not reveal it for a few > days.www.BLTR.org > > > > > It's a very simple, but that simplicity 'must' be preserved by simply > > > "*teaching the world a word*". If an explanation of how it will work > > > becomes involved in the 'mass presentation' it will become like a > > > religion and fail. > > > > > Thanks again man. I Love you. > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > On Jul 11, 3:00 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > The thread I misquoted was actually "Collective Mentality" back in > > > > April. It covers 112 posts in all, much of which I have just scanned > > > > through. > > > > > > A portion within the post on April 27 @ 10:47 pm you Tinker state>>>" > > > > I think we need to > > > > do something to get everybody off into it for a meeting to bring > about > > > > the change." > > > > > > You continue in other posts to state>> "I can't say exactly how it > > > > will be done. " > > > > > > You also state>>"I'm thinking there is a way to make a connection to > > > > bring that 'super > > > > mind' forward in our conscious mind. " > > > > > > You reiterate with>>"Again, I can't actually say how it will be done. > > > > I do have a pretty > > > > sure idea of what will Not work. " > > > > > > You said you were working on a thread titled The Wrong Way which I > > > > don't imagine would contain any solutions but recognition of noted > > > > failures, all of which I would likely agree with, but we still remain > > > > without a way and means of accomplishing the collective. > > > > > > You suggested>>"We have to create a focus point in the separation." > > > > and "The 'thing' in our mind?" > > > > > > This is where it all starts to unravel, the creation of the "Thing". > > > > > > You continue with>>"The focus point would be the beginning of unity." > > > > > > Now we have the focus point, the thing and unity. > > > > > > You then reply to heretic with>>"Allan, we are not talking about > > > > starting another religion. > > > > We are looking at the root of all religion, which is intentionally > > > > good, and seeking a way to make it a common link amongst mankind > > > > without all the BS. " > > > > > > Still there is not a shred of direction but more recognition. > > > > > > You address Rosey with>>"I believe the purpose of this discussion is > > > > to find the key to " how " > > > > > > Ah but yet another clue to the ongoing dilemma of the "how" which has > > > > gone full circle to where we are now, probably several times over. > > > > > > You finalize a paragraph to e space with "I think we need a way to > > > > make it common knowledge." > > > > > > So you are still stuck in the mud of perplexity with needing a way. > > > > > > And so that ends your contribution to the Collective Mentality > > > > thread. > > > > > > So a quick rehash here>> > > > > > > You think we need to do something but you don't know what. > > > > Your thinking there is a way, you don't know what it is but you are > > > > sure of all the ways it isn't. > > > > You know that a focus point is needed in order for a "thing" to begin > > > > a unity. > > > > You are seeking a way and want to find the key that unlocks the > answer > > > > to "how?" > > > > > > Okay, so now the question about what I don't understand! > > > > > > How should we go about facilitating your "idea"? > > > > > > Slip, R.I.P. > > > > > > On Jul 10, 11:04 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Slip, you started the 'Collective Consciousness' thread after our > > > > > private conversation where I said; > > > > > "I got this thing in my head saying there's a way to 'hook up' > > > > > everybody to the collective intelligence. I need help to bring it > out > > > > > and make sense out of it. > > > > > That is what brought me to Mind's Eye." > > > > > > > You went off on the tangent from the idea I presented to you. You > went > > > > > straight into the 'pattern' that has to be broken for us to change > the > > > > > ways of Society. > > > > > > > I am not evasive. You will not ask questions. > > > > > I have presented the idea of establishing a common point of > > > > > understanding as the beginning point of Unity. > > > > > I have said that we need to recognize the common connection in our > > > > > mind with a universal symbol for that common point of > understanding. > > > > > I have presented "the Feeling" as the way to recognize that > > > > > connection. > > > > > > > Please, please, please, ask a question about what you don't > > > > > understand. What more do you want to know? > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 10:57 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I think it would be better if you were where I am, but OK, let's > start > > > > > > from "square one". YOU lay out the road map, or the > instructional > > > > > > plan, or the owners manual to your "Unique Idea" and then "WE" > can > > > > > > possibly see exactly what this idea is other than an "IDEA". We > were > > > > > > together on the collective consciousness thread which I started > but > > > > > > somehow you have gone off on some obscure tangent which is void > of > > > > > > description and you continually remain evasive in face of > membership > > > > > > requests for specifics. I haven't forgotten your post long gone > in > > > > > > which you tell tale of your subtleties which are intentionally > > > > > > antagonistic and in which you claim to have been really good at. > The > > > > > > cat and mouse games are boring so spell it out clearly, > succinctly, > > > > > > concisely and perhaps "WE" can "SEE" your "Unique" idea. So far > I > > > > > > don't see anything that even remotely resembles an earnest > attempt > > > > > > other than that of the dangling bait technique, which is by now > > > > > > getting very tiring. Yesterday is gone, tomorrow is yet to come > and > > > > > > the future is wide open, so set the course, but at least make it > > > > > > legible. > > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 7:08 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > If your mind was there, you would be where I am, you are not. > > > > > > > > > Yes it is a unique idea, I'm sorry you can't see it. > > > > > > > > > If you did see it you would know how "the segment of humanity > that > > > > > > > "does not want unity"" would be affected by our higher power. > > > > > > > > > I really do appreciate your concerned guidance. I've no > interest in > > > > > > > becoming a martyr. > > > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 5:17 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm afraid that you don't seem to understand is that my mind > is > > > > > > > > "there", as are others. You don't have a new or exclusive > idea. Get > > > > > > > > off the cloud Tinker. > > > > > > > > Aside from that there is a problematic > > > > ... > > > > read more ยป > > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
