HaHa, foiled again. He spelled "until" wrong! ;-]

On Jul 29, 7:46 am, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:
> Did hell just freeze over? I think I just read a post by Vam that I agree
> with every single word of! Oh my goodness... :)
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> Ian
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> 2009/7/28 Vamadevananda <[email protected]>
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> > Jim, the gentle ways are wonderful. But much of it, most of the time,
> > is also a sham continued from feudal eras, practised as class symbols
> > and perpetuated by people who reap its benefits in the status quo. In
> > the view of large mass populations, the political and social
> > correctness is established on the misery of the marginalised and the
> > dispossessed.
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> > Whilst " political gerrymandering " is definitely in the middle of
> > things, mass extremist behaviours are also expressions of the
> > historical demand ...  that things should be set right !  Of course,
> > as they perceive.
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> > The virtue of moderation must lie in its effect, in pushing the cart
> > of change forward. Extreme behaviours cause a lot of see - saw change,
> > much destruction, and leave the cart in the same place, untill the
> > cause of real change is remembered.
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> > On Jul 28, 10:45 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Slip - a very interesting and timely topic. Thanks for introducing
> > > it.
> > >      I agree that our community, local, regional, national or
> > > whatever, used to be far more friendly, given to helping one another,
> > > gracious, gentlemanly and gentlewomanly, willing to reconcile and
> > > forgive. Now extremeism, hatred, and revenge seem to be so prevalent.
> > > I think a large part of this change is due to political gerrymandering
> > > - the drawing of political boundaries to encompass only those of a
> > > particluar party, or viewpoint, or attitude. Thus, to get elected the
> > > candidate had to be extreme, and this extremeism had carried over into
> > > our communal life. There are hardly any moderates any more, whereas
> > > when political boundaries used to be drawn without regard to -isms,
> > > moderates got elected and were our leaders. The Supreme Court had an
> > > opportunity to strike down political gerrymandering a few years ago
> > > but did not. So we are stuck in a society now filled with extremeists.
> > > Anyway, that's my two cents. Jim
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> > > On Jul 26, 3:22 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > Are we losing the ability to reconcile in the world?  Have we slipped
> > > > so far from the understanding of brotherhood, of forgiveness that we
> > > > have simply become a world of hatred and revenge.   We are literally
> > > > mortified by the specter of terrorism that is plaguing the world.  The
> > > > mindset of terrorism is anchored in the inability to allow forgiveness
> > > > to override anger and instead caters to hatred, anger and violence
> > > > towards those deemed the wrongdoers without regard for the harm
> > > > imposed upon the innocent bystanders.
> > > > Aside from that our culture seems entrenched in the business of
> > > > revenge, we rather employ legal means to inflict suffering upon those
> > > > who we think have done us wrong before we would sit down directly and
> > > > discuss the problems.  Politics seems to be leaning more toward
> > > > instilling anger and fears among us which leads to a polarization of
> > > > society while most media seem devoted to divisive and anger driven
> > > > reporting with a general attitude of who is to blame.
> > > > Can we ever stop sending messages attached to missiles, bombs and
> > > > bullets?  Our attempts to establish peaceful means of resolution have
> > > > failed miserably because there is never a general consensus on any
> > > > issue.  We sanction and punish to no end in order to force change but
> > > > to no avail.  People are at war in every quadrant of the planet while
> > > > new agitations are festering in the background waiting to emerge as
> > > > full scale skirmishes.- Hide quoted text -
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