On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:46 AM, rigsy03<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Bush 43 is not considered a Conservative by Conservatives.

I second that emotion.  I was flabbergasted when I noticed REPUBLICANS
pushing medicare entitlement increases.  Increasing the size and
breadth of government doth not make a conservative.  Nor does nation
building.  That's a neocon thing and I want no part of it.

dj

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> On Jul 29, 1:45�am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well you are right there, africa tends to have its own agenda and one I have
>> never been able to make any sense of and I have friends there but most of
>> them have escaped out of there. and they are very nice people. Africa is a
>> category to it self.
>>
>> It is not so much a score card but an apparent attitude. �Liberal is
>> associated with the left, flexibility and change and conservative is
>> associated with the right and Status Quo hard line none changing policy
>> adherence to a strict format. Or at least that is the way that I see it.
>>
>> Now I am american and I also hold my dutch citizenship (my wife ids dutch)
>> as a result of listening to the news especially in english (british, CNN
>> international, and euronews) governments are often time categorized by
>> liberal , right, left , hard right, hard left, hard right conservative. hard
>> left conservative and of course the moderates but they don't make the news.
>>
>> Bush and his cronies were classified as conservative hard right. So it is
>> not really a score card per say just �an accumulation of news reports and
>> personal opinion
>> Allan
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:13 AM, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > On Jul 28, 1:00 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > I am not sure but it seems most of the extreme hatred comes from those
>> > who
>> > > call them selves the conservative right, but that never makes sense to
>> > me.
>> > > Allan
>>
>> > Idon't have the scorecard �Allan but it is found everywhere. �You
>> > know what I find very frightening? �That people �(all humans) might
>> > have a "side" �that is truly horrific. In Rwanda for example. (not
>> > right wing per se, make a note) �There were massacres where seemingly
>> > ordinary people hacked to death , thousands and thousands with
>> > machetes. Just because they were a "tribe" or an ethnic group. In
>> > Bosnia? �Brutal murders beyond your worst nightmares.
>>
>> > �We can say these were just horrible people (they are) �but I fear
>> > that they are somewhat ordinary people. �Something triggered them to
>> > act this way.
>>
>> > � What I fear is that we have this side, this "switch" that can go
>> > off when large groups of people start believing that another group is
>> > "bad." �It causes people to not see people anymore. �They see them as
>> > pests, no more than bugs to be exterminated. �Some sort of primevil
>> > frenzy.
>>
>> > � I would like to believe in the good in people, but I fear there is
>> > more than that locked away deep in the human animal.
>>
>> --
>> (
>> �)
>> I_D Allan- Hide quoted text -
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