On Aug 27, 8:29 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Umm yeah good one Chris.
>
> My first instinct is that communist philosphy on paper says the right
> things, whilst of course Rand does not.
Thank you for the opening thoughts, will there be a more thorough
analysis forthcoming? Will there be any rational debate or more in
depth discussion or even semi-rational exchanges on such a wonderful
topic?
> On 27 Aug, 16:12, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From
> > here:http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/08/24/what-we-are-not-emb...
>
> > "
>
> > Here is a good debate proposition: It ought to be less embarrassing to have
> > been influenced by Ayn Rand than by Karl Marx.
>
> > The most powerful way to argue the affirmative is to compare the number of
> > human beings murdered by the devotees of each. That line of attack ought to
> > be decisive, but I’m afraid it won’t get you far with the multitude of
> > highly-self-regarded thinkers influenced by Karl Marx. Fact is, commitment
> > to some kind of socialism and fluency in the jargon of Marxism used to be
> > mandatory for serious intellectuals. And there’s something glamorous in the
> > very idea of the intellectual. Even for those of us who came of age after
> > 1989, Marxism, like cigarettes, remains linked by association to the idea of
> > the intellectual, and so, like cigarettes, shares in the intellectual’s
> > glamour. I don’t know if cigarettes or Marxism have killed more people, but
> > it’s pretty clear cigarettes are more actively stigmatized. Marxists,
> > neo-Marxists, crypto-Marxists, post-Marxists, etc. have an enduring
> > influence on intellectual fashion. So it is not only possible proudly to
> > confess Marx’s influence on one’s thought, but it remains possible in some
> > quarters to impress by doing so. It ought to be embarrassing, but it isn’t.
> > Being a bit of a Marxist is like having a closet full of pirate blouses but
> > never having to worry."
>
> > This gave me pause for consideration. Rand's philosophies have been much
> > maligned as "uncompassionate", while certain "socialist" (Marxist Communist)
> > policies have been held up as an ideal, and yet, how many people have been
> > killed in the name of Randian philosophy, and how many have been killed in
> > the name of Marxist philosophy?
>
> > What do YOU think? ;)- Hide quoted text -
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