Patience sir, as you can see by the words that I used, this is indeed
my first instinct and mentioned to 'get the ball' rolling, plenty of
time to discect it huh.

On 27 Aug, 19:57, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Aug 27, 8:29 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Umm yeah good one Chris.
>
> > My first instinct is that communist philosphy on paper says the right
> > things, whilst of course Rand does not.
>
> Thank you for the opening thoughts, will there be a more thorough
> analysis forthcoming?  Will there be any rational debate or more in
> depth discussion or even semi-rational exchanges on such a wonderful
> topic?
>
>
>
> > On 27 Aug, 16:12, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > From 
> > > here:http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/08/24/what-we-are-not-emb...
>
> > > "
>
> > > Here is a good debate proposition: It ought to be less embarrassing to 
> > > have
> > > been influenced by Ayn Rand than by Karl Marx.
>
> > > The most powerful way to argue the affirmative is to compare the number of
> > > human beings murdered by the devotees of each. That line of attack ought 
> > > to
> > > be decisive, but I’m afraid it won’t get you far with the multitude of
> > > highly-self-regarded thinkers influenced by Karl Marx. Fact is, commitment
> > > to some kind of socialism and fluency in the jargon of Marxism used to be
> > > mandatory for serious intellectuals. And there’s something glamorous in 
> > > the
> > > very idea of the intellectual. Even for those of us who came of age after
> > > 1989, Marxism, like cigarettes, remains linked by association to the idea 
> > > of
> > > the intellectual, and so, like cigarettes, shares in the intellectual’s
> > > glamour. I don’t know if cigarettes or Marxism have killed more people, 
> > > but
> > > it’s pretty clear cigarettes are more actively stigmatized. Marxists,
> > > neo-Marxists, crypto-Marxists, post-Marxists, etc. have an enduring
> > > influence on intellectual fashion. So it is not only possible proudly to
> > > confess Marx’s influence on one’s thought, but it remains possible in some
> > > quarters to impress by doing so. It ought to be embarrassing, but it 
> > > isn’t.
> > > Being a bit of a Marxist is like having a closet full of pirate blouses 
> > > but
> > > never having to worry."
>
> > > This gave me pause for consideration. Rand's philosophies have been much
> > > maligned as "uncompassionate", while certain "socialist" (Marxist 
> > > Communist)
> > > policies have been held up as an ideal, and yet, how many people have been
> > > killed in the name of Randian philosophy, and how many have been killed in
> > > the name of Marxist philosophy?
>
> > > What do YOU think? ;)- Hide quoted text -
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