I think you need to understand my “modus operandi” here. I see ideas as having a box around them. The lines of the box may be blurry or sharp, but they “contain” the idea. Outside of the box the idea breaks down or is no longer useful. When I hear an idea, let’s take socialism or communism, I don’t approach the analysis of that idea like most people it appears. Instead of staying in the center of that idea “on face value” I immediately run off to the edges of the idea to find its “limits.” I will ask questions from way over on the edge of the idea, and you think “what is he doing way over there?” Well, I am finding the edges of the idea. I am yelling back to you “is this where the line is? I need to know where that idea might go if it was not examined and was allowed to travel to its extreme limits of its value. I am testing it by asking questions. That is how I find the limits. I find this very useful! I may be alone in this approach, but if you look at anything I have ever said in here, you can see this modus operandi at work.
On Aug 28, 2:39 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > Patience sir, as you can see by the words that I used, this is indeed > my first instinct and mentioned to 'get the ball' rolling, plenty of > time to discect it huh. > > On 27 Aug, 19:57, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 27, 8:29 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Umm yeah good one Chris. > > > > My first instinct is that communist philosphy on paper says the right > > > things, whilst of course Rand does not. > > > Thank you for the opening thoughts, will there be a more thorough > > analysis forthcoming? Will there be any rational debate or more in > > depth discussion or even semi-rational exchanges on such a wonderful > > topic? > > > > On 27 Aug, 16:12, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > From > > > > here:http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/08/24/what-we-are-not-emb... > > > > > " > > > > > Here is a good debate proposition: It ought to be less embarrassing to > > > > have > > > > been influenced by Ayn Rand than by Karl Marx. > > > > > The most powerful way to argue the affirmative is to compare the number > > > > of > > > > human beings murdered by the devotees of each. That line of attack > > > > ought to > > > > be decisive, but I’m afraid it won’t get you far with the multitude of > > > > highly-self-regarded thinkers influenced by Karl Marx. Fact is, > > > > commitment > > > > to some kind of socialism and fluency in the jargon of Marxism used to > > > > be > > > > mandatory for serious intellectuals. And there’s something glamorous in > > > > the > > > > very idea of the intellectual. Even for those of us who came of age > > > > after > > > > 1989, Marxism, like cigarettes, remains linked by association to the > > > > idea of > > > > the intellectual, and so, like cigarettes, shares in the intellectual’s > > > > glamour. I don’t know if cigarettes or Marxism have killed more people, > > > > but > > > > it’s pretty clear cigarettes are more actively stigmatized. Marxists, > > > > neo-Marxists, crypto-Marxists, post-Marxists, etc. have an enduring > > > > influence on intellectual fashion. So it is not only possible proudly to > > > > confess Marx’s influence on one’s thought, but it remains possible in > > > > some > > > > quarters to impress by doing so. It ought to be embarrassing, but it > > > > isn’t. > > > > Being a bit of a Marxist is like having a closet full of pirate blouses > > > > but > > > > never having to worry." > > > > > This gave me pause for consideration. Rand's philosophies have been much > > > > maligned as "uncompassionate", while certain "socialist" (Marxist > > > > Communist) > > > > policies have been held up as an ideal, and yet, how many people have > > > > been > > > > killed in the name of Randian philosophy, and how many have been killed > > > > in > > > > the name of Marxist philosophy? > > > > > What do YOU think? ;)- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
