The sir thing dearest Gabby is commonly know as good manners. The instinct post as I belive I have already said, is my instinctual first thoughts, and posted to get the ball rolling. Please feel free to disect my initial thoughts on the question Chris raised, that way I can then answer and thus the debate is started.
You see how that one works Gabster? Come now people is it really that hard to figure out my motives for posting that first post as I did? On 28 Aug, 11:14, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > What is that Sir-thing, Lee? You asked for a rational debate and now > you are winding yourself out by referring to your instincts - the > lower ones, as we can see. Think about it. > > On 28 Aug., 11:39, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Patience sir, as you can see by the words that I used, this is indeed > > my first instinct and mentioned to 'get the ball' rolling, plenty of > > time to discect it huh. > > > On 27 Aug, 19:57, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Aug 27, 8:29 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > Umm yeah good one Chris. > > > > > My first instinct is that communist philosphy on paper says the right > > > > things, whilst of course Rand does not. > > > > Thank you for the opening thoughts, will there be a more thorough > > > analysis forthcoming? Will there be any rational debate or more in > > > depth discussion or even semi-rational exchanges on such a wonderful > > > topic? > > > > > On 27 Aug, 16:12, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > From > > > > > here:http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/08/24/what-we-are-not-emb... > > > > > > " > > > > > > Here is a good debate proposition: It ought to be less embarrassing > > > > > to have > > > > > been influenced by Ayn Rand than by Karl Marx. > > > > > > The most powerful way to argue the affirmative is to compare the > > > > > number of > > > > > human beings murdered by the devotees of each. That line of attack > > > > > ought to > > > > > be decisive, but I’m afraid it won’t get you far with the multitude of > > > > > highly-self-regarded thinkers influenced by Karl Marx. Fact is, > > > > > commitment > > > > > to some kind of socialism and fluency in the jargon of Marxism used > > > > > to be > > > > > mandatory for serious intellectuals. And there’s something glamorous > > > > > in the > > > > > very idea of the intellectual. Even for those of us who came of age > > > > > after > > > > > 1989, Marxism, like cigarettes, remains linked by association to the > > > > > idea of > > > > > the intellectual, and so, like cigarettes, shares in the > > > > > intellectual’s > > > > > glamour. I don’t know if cigarettes or Marxism have killed more > > > > > people, but > > > > > it’s pretty clear cigarettes are more actively stigmatized. Marxists, > > > > > neo-Marxists, crypto-Marxists, post-Marxists, etc. have an enduring > > > > > influence on intellectual fashion. So it is not only possible proudly > > > > > to > > > > > confess Marx’s influence on one’s thought, but it remains possible in > > > > > some > > > > > quarters to impress by doing so. It ought to be embarrassing, but it > > > > > isn’t. > > > > > Being a bit of a Marxist is like having a closet full of pirate > > > > > blouses but > > > > > never having to worry." > > > > > > This gave me pause for consideration. Rand's philosophies have been > > > > > much > > > > > maligned as "uncompassionate", while certain "socialist" (Marxist > > > > > Communist) > > > > > policies have been held up as an ideal, and yet, how many > people have been> > > > killed in the name of Randian philosophy, and how > many have been killed i > > > > > > the name of Marxist philosophy? > > t do YOU think? ;)- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
