What is that Sir-thing, Lee? You asked for a rational debate and now you are winding yourself out by referring to your instincts - the lower ones, as we can see. Think about it.
On 28 Aug., 11:39, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > Patience sir, as you can see by the words that I used, this is indeed > my first instinct and mentioned to 'get the ball' rolling, plenty of > time to discect it huh. > > On 27 Aug, 19:57, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Aug 27, 8:29 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Umm yeah good one Chris. > > > > My first instinct is that communist philosphy on paper says the right > > > things, whilst of course Rand does not. > > > Thank you for the opening thoughts, will there be a more thorough > > analysis forthcoming? Will there be any rational debate or more in > > depth discussion or even semi-rational exchanges on such a wonderful > > topic? > > > > On 27 Aug, 16:12, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > From > > > > here:http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/08/24/what-we-are-not-emb... > > > > > " > > > > > Here is a good debate proposition: It ought to be less embarrassing to > > > > have > > > > been influenced by Ayn Rand than by Karl Marx. > > > > > The most powerful way to argue the affirmative is to compare the number > > > > of > > > > human beings murdered by the devotees of each. That line of attack > > > > ought to > > > > be decisive, but I’m afraid it won’t get you far with the multitude of > > > > highly-self-regarded thinkers influenced by Karl Marx. Fact is, > > > > commitment > > > > to some kind of socialism and fluency in the jargon of Marxism used to > > > > be > > > > mandatory for serious intellectuals. And there’s something glamorous in > > > > the > > > > very idea of the intellectual. Even for those of us who came of age > > > > after > > > > 1989, Marxism, like cigarettes, remains linked by association to the > > > > idea of > > > > the intellectual, and so, like cigarettes, shares in the intellectual’s > > > > glamour. I don’t know if cigarettes or Marxism have killed more people, > > > > but > > > > it’s pretty clear cigarettes are more actively stigmatized. Marxists, > > > > neo-Marxists, crypto-Marxists, post-Marxists, etc. have an enduring > > > > influence on intellectual fashion. So it is not only possible proudly to > > > > confess Marx’s influence on one’s thought, but it remains possible in > > > > some > > > > quarters to impress by doing so. It ought to be embarrassing, but it > > > > isn’t. > > > > Being a bit of a Marxist is like having a closet full of pirate blouses > > > > but > > > > never having to worry." > > > > > This gave me pause for consideration. Rand's philosophies have been much > > > > maligned as "uncompassionate", while certain "socialist" (Marxist > > > > Communist) > > > > policies have been held up as an ideal, and yet, how many people have been > > > > killed in the name of Randian philosophy, and how many have been killed > > > > i > > > > > > > the name of Marxist philosophy? > t do YOU think? ;)- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
