....nor everything you think!
On Sep 1, 5:04 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Heh you bloody strange marvelous creature you.
>
> Here is what you said:
>
> 'An eye for an eye is the static "way" of saying: try walking in my
> shoes. How much fairer can you get?
>
> Seems quite clear cut to me?
>
> Yep metrics we do that here also, don't belive everything you hear huh
> Gabs!
>
> On 1 Sep, 12:55, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > *laughing* My far away friend over there sitting on your British
> > Isles, we count in metres here on the continent. Check what I really
> > said.
>
> > On 1 Sep., 13:47, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Yes indeed, I have already given the reason I don't belive you. Can
> > > you offer us any other examples that the phrase 'An eye for an eye'
> > > when said by somebody has meant 'walk a mile in my shoes'?
>
> > > On 1 Sep, 12:42, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Normally is normally spelt with a double l, Lee, but I see what you
> > > > mean anyway.
>
> > > > I believe that you don't believe me.
>
> > > > On 1 Sep., 11:46, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:> I've never even thought of applying such a meaning to that
> > > > particular
> > > > > one Gabs, and I do not belive that when it is normaly uttered that
> > > > > this meaning is errrr meant.
>
> > > > > On 28 Aug, 19:29, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > An eye for an eye is the static "way" of saying: try walking in my
> > > > > > shoes. How much fairer can you get?
>
> > > > > > On 28 Aug., 14:55, "[email protected]"
> > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > In what way? If you take an eye because you percive that a man
> > > > > > > has
>
> > > > > > taken yours, then you find out it was his twin brother, the two
> > > > things
>
> > > > > > > occour to me.
>
> > > > >> > Hoow do you replace the eye that you have taken, and is it then
> > > > >> > fair
> > > > > > > that you give up another eye?
>
> > > > > > > On 27 Aug, 03:09, Darrel Farrel <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > an eye for an eye is fair
>
> > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:27:25 -0700
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: revenge
> > > > > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > > > > To: [email protected]
>
> > > > > > > > > All in all I think revenge is a moral and psycological
> > > > > > > > > deadend.
>
> > > > > > t my f
> > > > > > ay f
>
> > > > el goodod for a while to take vgagance, but othan that that
>
> > > > > > > > l littlrush h of feeling good what does it do in the long term?
>
> > > > > > > > > On 26 Aug, 05:12, facilitator <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I think of revenge for variuos reasons from to timo time.
> > > > > > > > > > Usuly to
>
> > > > > > > > > > corrt sosomething or someone when I have been wronged.
>
> > > > > > > > > > But I am not very clever in that regard and don't carry it
> > > > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > thinking that somehow this "correction to an injustice"
> > > > > > > > > > will spin out
> > > > > > > > > > of control and fall back on my head anyway.
>
> > > > > > > > > > I have chosen to spend my time doing something proactive and
> > > > > > > > > > constructive instead.
>
> > > > > > > > > > One of my famous sayings helps me in this regard:
> > > > > > > > > > "The opposite of love is not hate , it is indifference".
>
> > > > > > > > > > I become indifferent to the offender. I am almost certain
> > > > > > > > > > this has to
> > > > > > > > > > be wrong, but it works for me.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Still, all in all, I would prefer for the most part to be
> > > > > > > > > > the hammer
> > > > > > > > > > rather than the nail!
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Aug 25, 9:11 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > When I saw you use the word revenge in the other thread
> > > > > > > > > > > Neil, I got
> > > > > > > > > > > the full body rush. Ugh, revenge - bad. But then I read
> > > > > > > > > > > your amusing
> > > > > > > > > > > experience and I asked myself if I ever felt this way.
> > > > > > > > > > > The answer is
> > > > > > > > > > > yes.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > At the end of my first marriage, my soon to be ex husband
> > > > > > > > > > > had an
> > > > > > > > > > > affair, and his girlfriend would call the house, let it
> > > > > > > > > > > ring twice and
> > > > > > > > > > > hang up, or hang up if I answered before two rings. This
> > > > > > > > > > > got my
> > > > > > > > > > > attention when it began, so I started watching what
> > > > > > > > > > > became obvious
> > > > > > > > > > > between them. So I asked them both directly about it,
> > > > > > > > > > > and they both
> > > > > > > > > > > denied it. It went on for a bit longer before it
> > > > > > > > > > > occurred to me that
> > > > > > > > > > > I need not suffer the intrusion into my life. I called
> > > > > > > > > > > her home (she
> > > > > > > > > > > also was married with children) every hour for twenty
> > > > > > > > > > > four - day and
> > > > > > > > > > > night, for one twenty four hour period, and hung up after
> > > > > > > > > > > two rings or
> > > > > > > > > > > if anyone answered. If my husband heard me doing this
> > > > > > > > > > > when he was
> > > > > > > > > > > home at night, he said nothing. Her husband was
> > > > > > > > > > > obviously not happy
> > > > > > > > > > > as the night wore on, as evidenced by the tone of his
> > > > > > > > > > > voice. Lucky
> > > > > > > > > > > for me, it was prior to caller ID telephones. Well, it
> > > > > > > > > > > worked for
> > > > > > > > > > > me. The calls stopped. Nothing was ever mentioned by
> > > > > > > > > > > anyone until
> > > > > > > > > > > one day a couple of years and after my divorce I got a
> > > > > > > > > > > call from her.
> > > > > > > > > > > She had gone into AA and wanted to make amends. I
> > > > > > > > > > > listened to her,
> > > > > > > > > > > encouraged her to continue with her program, and kindly
> > > > > > > > > > > let her know
> > > > > > > > > > > she was not welcome to call me again.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > This, by the definitions above, would be revenge,
> > > > > > > > > > > although for me at
> > > > > > > > > > > the time, it was the only way I could think of to get the
> > > > > > > > > > > calls to
> > > > > > > > > > > stop. I wasn't thinking of getting even, but stopping
> > > > > > > > > > > the calls. I
> > > > > > > > > > > wasn't delighted in this poor families frustration, but
> > > > > > > > > > > glad the calls
> > > > > > > > > > > stopped.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 25, 7:33 pm, archytas <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > It's not a good to let let a imp see e you give it an
> > > > > > > > > > > > injection - it
> > > > > > > > > > > > will take revenge. My guess amongst humans is that
> > > > > > > > > > > > there is so little
> > > > > > > > > > > > justice that revenge gets taken in all kinds of
> > > > > > > > > > > > inappropriate ways.
> > > > > > > > > > > > The idiot wife beater may well be really pissed off
> > > > > > > > > > > > over other matters
> > > > > > > > > > > > and so on. Young Iranian boys off to get killed by
> > > > > > > > > > > > Iraqi gas wore
> > > > > > > > > > > > socks marked 'Death to Israel'. From the Baltic to the
> > > > > > > > > > > > Balkans one
> > > > > > > > > > > > set has taken revenge against another for over a
> > > > > > > > > > > > thousand years. In
> > > > > > > > > > > > Albania, the men have to stay indoors whilst the women
> > > > > > > > > > > > toil in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > fields for fear of vendetta (no doubt a cunning sexist
> > > > > > > > > > > > use of
> > > > > > > > > > > > 'revenge'). Petty revenge is nearly always taken out
> > > > > > > > > > > > for the wrong
> > > > > > > > > > > > reasons against the wrong people. It's usually nasty
> > > > > > > > > > > > and childish.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 25 Aug, 23:30, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you covered it all.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 25, 5:00 pm, Molly Brogan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Revenge or vengeance consists of retaliation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > against a person or group
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in response to perceived wrongdoing. Although many
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspects of revenge
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > resemble or echo the concept of making things
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > equal, revenge usually
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > has a more injurious than constructive goal. The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vengeful wish is to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > make the perceived wrongdoer go through what they
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > put the victim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > through or to make sure the wrongdoer can never do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > what they did
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > again.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Revenge has been a popular theme for art and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > culture throughout
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > history. Many popular motion pictures have used it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as a central theme,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > including Payback, Death Wish, Star Trek II: The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrath of Khan, Star
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wars: Revenge of the Sith, and Kill Bill. Classic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > literary examples of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > revenge stories include The Oresteialet,mlet, The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mchanant of Venice,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don Giovanni, and Moby-Dick.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >venge sege en in the l ght t of ethics highlights the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >tension between
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > wh we e think of a just versus whate thihk ofof as
> > > > > > > > > >> > right. But even in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the light of ethics, some may accept revenge as the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ethical
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > alternative when an impartial system of justice is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > missing or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ineffective, reasoning that punishment of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrongdoers is a better
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > alternative than no punishment whatsoever. In
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > these cases, it seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable that revenge may be an appropriate
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > reaction to small
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > infractions, assuming the revenge is kept small as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > well.
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