You are given the benefit of the doubt.
On 29 Aug., 02:38, Darrel Farrel <[email protected]> wrote:
> if you were wrong it was not an eye for an eye
>
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:55:47 -0700
> > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: revenge
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
>
> > In what way? If you take an eye because you percive that a man has
> > taken yours, then you find out it was his twin brother, the two things
> > occour to me.
>
> > How do you replace the eye that you have taken, and is it then fair
> > that you give up another eye?
>
> > On 27 Aug, 03:09, Darrel Farrel <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > an eye for an eye is fair
>
> > > > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:27:25 -0700
> > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: revenge
> > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > To: [email protected]
>
> > > > All in all I think revenge is a moral and psycological deadend.
>
> > > > It may feel good for a while to take vengance, but other than that
> > > > little rush of feeling good what does it do in the long term?
>
> > > > On 26 Aug, 05:12, facilitator <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > I think of revenge for variuos reasons from time to time. Usually to
> > > > > correct something or someone when I have been wronged.
>
> > > > > But I am not very clever in that regard and don't carry it out
> > > > > thinking that somehow this "correction to an injustice" will spin out
> > > > > of control and fall back on my head anyway.
>
> > > > > I have chosen to spend my time doing something proactive and
> > > > > constructive instead.
>
> > > > > One of my famous sayings helps me in this regard:
> > > > > "The opposite of love is not hate , it is indifference".
>
> > > > > I become indifferent to the offender. I am almost certain this has to
> > > > > be wrong, but it works for me.
>
> > > > > Still, all in all, I would prefer for the most part to be the hammer
> > > > > rather than the nail!
>
> > > > > On Aug 25, 9:11 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > When I saw you use the word revenge in the other thread Neil, I got
> > > > > > the full body rush. Ugh, revenge - bad. But then I read your
> > > > > > amusing
> > > > > > experience and I asked myself if I ever felt this way. The answer
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > yes.
>
> > > > > > At the end of my first marriage, my soon to be ex husband had an
> > > > > > affair, and his girlfriend would call the house, let it ring twice
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > hang up, or hang up if I answered before two rings. This got my
> > > > > > attention when it began, so I started watching what became obvious
> > > > > > between them. So I asked them both directly about it, and they both
> > > > > > denied it. It went on for a bit longer before it occurred to me
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > I need not suffer the intrusion into my life. I called her home
> > > > > > (she
> > > > > > also was married with children) every hour for twenty four - day and
> > > > > > night, for one twenty four hour period, and hung up after two rings
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > if anyone answered. If my husband heard me doing this when he was
> > > > > > home at night, he said nothing. Her husband was obviously not happy
> > > > > > as the night wore on, as evidenced by the tone of his voice. Lucky
> > > > > > for me, it was prior to caller ID telephones. Well, it worked for
> > > > > > me. The calls stopped. Nothing was ever mentioned by anyone until
> > > > > > one day a couple of years and after my divorce I got a call from
> > > > > > her.
> > > > > > She had gone into AA and wanted to make amends. I listened to her,
> > > > > > encouraged her to continue with her program, and kindly let her know
> > > > > > she was not welcome to call me again.
>
> > > > > > This, by the definitions above, would be revenge, although for me at
> > > > > > the time, it was the only way I could think of to get the calls to
> > > > > > stop. I wasn't thinking of getting even, but stopping the calls. I
> > > > > > wasn't delighted in this poor families frustration, but glad the
> > > > > > calls
> > > > > > stopped.
>
> > > > > > On Aug 25, 7:33 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > It's not a good idea to let a chimp see you give it an injection
> > > > > > > - it
> > > > > > > will take revenge. My guess amongst humans is that there is so
> > > > > > > little
> > > > > > > justice that revenge gets taken in all kinds of inappropriate
> > > > > > > ways.
> > > > > > > The idiot wife beater may well be really pissed off over other
> > > > > > > matters
> > > > > > > and so on. Young Iranian boys off to get killed by Iraqi gas wore
> > > > > > > socks marked 'Death to Israel'. From the Baltic to the Balkans
> > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > set has taken revenge against another for over a thousand years.
> > > > > > > In
> > > > > > > Albania, the men have to stay indoors whilst the women toil in the
> > > > > > > fields for fear of vendetta (no doubt a cunning sexist use of
> > > > > > > 'revenge'). Petty revenge is nearly always taken out for the
> > > > > > > wrong
> > > > > > > reasons against the wrong people. It's usually nasty and
> > > > > > > childish.
>
> > > > > > > On 25 Aug, 23:30, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > I think you covered it all.
>
> > > > > > > > On Aug 25, 5:00 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Revenge or vengeance consists of retaliation against a person
> > > > > > > > > or group
> > > > > > > > > in response to perceived wrongdoing. Although many aspects of
> > > > > > > > > revenge
> > > > > > > > > resemble or echo the concept of making things equal, revenge
> > > > > > > > > usually
> > > > > > > > > has a more injurious than constructive goal. The vengeful
> > > > > > > > > wish is to
> > > > > > > > > make the perceived wrongdoer go through what they put the
> > > > > > > > > victim
> > > > > > > > > through or to make sure the wrongdoer can never do what they
> > > > > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > > again.
>
> > > > > > > > > Revenge has been a popular theme for art and culture
> > > > > > > > > throughout
> > > > > > > > > history. Many popular motion pictures have used it as a
> > > > > > > > > central theme,
> > > > > > > > > including Payback, Death Wish, Star Trek II: The Wrath of
> > > > > > > > > Khan, Star
> > > > > > > > > Wars: Revenge of the Sith, and Kill Bill. Classic literary
> > > > > > > > > examples of
> > > > > > > > > revenge stories include The Oresteia, Hamlet, The Merchant of
> > > > > > > > > Venice,
> > > > > > > > > Don Giovanni, and Moby-Dick.
>
> > > > > > > > > Revenge seen in the light of ethics highlights the tension
> > > > > > > > > between
> > > > > > > > > what we think of a just versus what we think of as right.
> > > > > > > > > But even in
> > > > > > > > > the light of ethics, some may accept revenge as the ethical
> > > > > > > > > alternative when an impartial system of justice is missing or
> > > > > > > > > ineffective, reasoning that punishment of wrongdoers is a
> > > > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > > alternative than no punishment whatsoever. In these cases,
> > > > > > > > > it seems
> > > > > > > > > reasonable that revenge may be an appropriate reaction to
> > > > > > > > > small
> > > > > > > > > infractions, assuming the revenge is kept small as well.
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