*laughing* My far away friend over there sitting on your British
Isles, we count in metres here on the continent. Check what I really
said.

On 1 Sep., 13:47, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Yes indeed, I have already given the reason I don't belive you.  Can
> you offer us any other examples that the phrase 'An eye for an eye'
> when said by somebody has meant 'walk a mile in my shoes'?
>
> On 1 Sep, 12:42, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Normally is normally spelt with a double l, Lee, but I see what you
> > mean anyway.
>
> > I believe that you don't believe me.
>
> > On 1 Sep., 11:46, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:> I've never even thought of applying such a meaning to that 
> > particular
> > > one Gabs, and I do not belive that when it is normaly uttered that
> > > this meaning is errrr meant.
>
> > > On 28 Aug, 19:29, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > An eye for an eye is the static "way" of saying: try walking in my
> > > > shoes. How much fairer can you get?
>
> > > > On 28 Aug., 14:55, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > In what way?  If you take an eye because you percive that a man has
>
> >  > > taken yours, then you find out it was his twin brother, the two
> > things
>
> > > > > occour to me.
>
> > >> > Hoow do you replace the eye that you have taken, and is it then fair
> > > > > that you give up another eye?
>
> > > > > On 27 Aug, 03:09, Darrel Farrel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > an eye for an eye is fair
>
> > > > > > > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:27:25 -0700
> > > > > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: revenge
> > > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > > To: [email protected]
>
> > > > > > > All in all I think revenge is a moral and psycological deadend.
>
> > > > t my f
> > > > ay f
>
> > el goodod for a while to take vgagance, but othan that that
>
> > > > > > l littlrush h of feeling good what does it do in the long term?
>
> > > > > > > On 26 Aug, 05:12, facilitator <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I think of revenge for variuos reasons from to timo time.  
> > > > > > > > Usuly to
>
> > > > > > > > corrt sosomething or someone when I have been wronged.
>
> > > > > > > > But I am not very clever in that regard and don't carry it out
> > > > > > > > thinking that somehow this "correction to an injustice" will 
> > > > > > > > spin out
> > > > > > > > of control and fall back on my head anyway.
>
> > > > > > > > I have chosen to spend my time doing something proactive and
> > > > > > > > constructive instead.
>
> > > > > > > > One of my famous sayings helps me in this regard:
> > > > > > > > "The opposite of love is not hate , it is indifference".
>
> > > > > > > > I become indifferent to the offender.  I am almost certain this 
> > > > > > > > has to
> > > > > > > > be wrong, but it works for me.
>
> > > > > > > > Still, all in all, I would prefer for the most part to be the 
> > > > > > > > hammer
> > > > > > > > rather than the nail!
>
> > > > > > > > On Aug 25, 9:11 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > When I saw you use the word revenge in the other thread Neil, 
> > > > > > > > > I got
> > > > > > > > > the full body rush.  Ugh, revenge - bad.  But then I read 
> > > > > > > > > your amusing
> > > > > > > > > experience and I asked myself if I ever felt this way.  The 
> > > > > > > > > answer is
> > > > > > > > > yes.
>
> > > > > > > > > At the end of my first marriage, my soon to be ex husband had 
> > > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > affair, and his girlfriend would call the house, let it ring 
> > > > > > > > > twice and
> > > > > > > > > hang up, or hang up if I answered before two rings.  This got 
> > > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > attention when it began, so I started watching what became 
> > > > > > > > > obvious
> > > > > > > > > between them.  So I asked them both directly about it, and 
> > > > > > > > > they both
> > > > > > > > > denied it.  It went on for a bit longer before it occurred to 
> > > > > > > > > me that
> > > > > > > > > I need not suffer the intrusion into my life.  I called her 
> > > > > > > > > home (she
> > > > > > > > > also was married with children) every hour for twenty four - 
> > > > > > > > > day and
> > > > > > > > > night, for one twenty four hour period, and hung up after two 
> > > > > > > > > rings or
> > > > > > > > > if anyone answered.  If my husband heard me doing this when 
> > > > > > > > > he was
> > > > > > > > > home at night, he said nothing.  Her husband was obviously 
> > > > > > > > > not happy
> > > > > > > > > as the night wore on, as evidenced by the tone of his voice.  
> > > > > > > > > Lucky
> > > > > > > > > for me, it was prior to caller ID telephones.  Well, it 
> > > > > > > > > worked for
> > > > > > > > > me.  The calls stopped.  Nothing was ever mentioned by anyone 
> > > > > > > > > until
> > > > > > > > > one day a couple of years and after my divorce I got a call 
> > > > > > > > > from her.
> > > > > > > > > She had gone into AA and wanted to make amends.  I listened 
> > > > > > > > > to her,
> > > > > > > > > encouraged her to continue with her program, and kindly let 
> > > > > > > > > her know
> > > > > > > > > she was not welcome to call me again.
>
> > > > > > > > > This, by the definitions above, would be revenge, although 
> > > > > > > > > for me at
> > > > > > > > > the time, it was the only way I could think of to get the 
> > > > > > > > > calls to
> > > > > > > > > stop.  I wasn't thinking of getting even, but stopping the 
> > > > > > > > > calls.  I
> > > > > > > > > wasn't delighted in this poor families frustration, but glad 
> > > > > > > > > the calls
> > > > > > > > > stopped.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Aug 25, 7:33 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > It's not a good to let  let a imp see e you give it an 
> > > > > > > > > > injection - it
> > > > > > > > > > will take revenge.  My guess amongst humans is that there 
> > > > > > > > > > is so little
> > > > > > > > > > justice that revenge gets taken in all kinds of 
> > > > > > > > > > inappropriate ways.
> > > > > > > > > > The idiot wife beater may well be really pissed off over 
> > > > > > > > > > other matters
> > > > > > > > > > and so on.  Young Iranian boys off to get killed by Iraqi 
> > > > > > > > > > gas wore
> > > > > > > > > > socks marked 'Death to Israel'.  From the Baltic to the 
> > > > > > > > > > Balkans one
> > > > > > > > > > set has taken revenge against another for over a thousand 
> > > > > > > > > > years.  In
> > > > > > > > > > Albania, the men have to stay indoors whilst the women toil 
> > > > > > > > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > > fields for fear of vendetta (no doubt a cunning sexist use 
> > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > 'revenge').  Petty revenge is nearly always taken out for 
> > > > > > > > > > the wrong
> > > > > > > > > > reasons against the wrong people.  It's usually nasty and 
> > > > > > > > > > childish.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On 25 Aug, 23:30, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I think you covered it all.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 25, 5:00 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Revenge or vengeance consists of retaliation against a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > person or group
> > > > > > > > > > > > in response to perceived wrongdoing. Although many 
> > > > > > > > > > > > aspects of revenge
> > > > > > > > > > > > resemble or echo the concept of making things equal, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > revenge usually
> > > > > > > > > > > > has a more injurious than constructive goal. The 
> > > > > > > > > > > > vengeful wish is to
> > > > > > > > > > > > make the perceived wrongdoer go through what they put 
> > > > > > > > > > > > the victim
> > > > > > > > > > > > through or to make sure the wrongdoer can never do what 
> > > > > > > > > > > > they did
> > > > > > > > > > > > again.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Revenge has been a popular theme for art and culture 
> > > > > > > > > > > > throughout
> > > > > > > > > > > > history. Many popular motion pictures have used it as a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > central theme,
> > > > > > > > > > > > including Payback, Death Wish, Star Trek II: The Wrath 
> > > > > > > > > > > > of Khan, Star
> > > > > > > > > > > > Wars: Revenge of the Sith, and Kill Bill. Classic 
> > > > > > > > > > > > literary examples of
> > > > > > > > > > > > revenge stories include The Oresteialet,mlet, The 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Mchanant of Venice,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Don Giovanni, and Moby-Dick.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >venge sege en in the l ght t of ethics highlights the 
> > > > > > > > > > >tension between
> > > > > > > >> >  > > wh we e think of a just versus whate thihk ofof as 
> > > > > > > >> > right.  But even in
> > > > > > > > > > > > the light of ethics, some may accept revenge as the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > ethical
> > > > > > > > > > > > alternative when  an impartial system of justice is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > missing or
> > > > > > > > > > > > ineffective, reasoning that punishment of wrongdoers is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > a better
> > > > > > > > > > > > alternative than no punishment whatsoever.  In these 
> > > > > > > > > > > > cases, it seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable that revenge may be an appropriate reaction 
> > > > > > > > > > > > to small
> > > > > > > > > > > > infractions, assuming the revenge is kept small as well.
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