good luck with that, she's really gone!
On Sep 3, 12:34 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Maybe you could chase gabby, fran, she's closer, no?
>
> On Sep 3, 9:53 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I wouldn't dream of chasing you out of any ground, Vam, more likely,
> > after seeing my feeble attempts at cricket, that you would be the one
> > chasing me out of the ground!
>
> > On a more general level you're right of course, in the sense that the
> > past is always there in the present, and that some Nazi idealogues (I
> > don't think Hitler's own educational level would have given any deep
> > insight into philosophy) would have been acquainted with Kant's work.
> > In the same way, Nazi ideology took over some ideas of Nietzsche (eg.
> > the "Übermensch"), without really understanding his philosophy (and
> > conveniently forgetting that Nietzsche couldn't stand anti-semitism,
> > for example, and broke off his friendship to Wagner over precisely
> > this issue).
>
> > Naziism/Fascism are bastard, incoherent developments out of many
> > trends and memes in the history of western thought.
>
> > Francis
>
> > On 3 Sep., 15:33, Vam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Fran, you're right, of course !
>
> > > But that, this limiting of effects of human thought within discreet
> > > limits, is also erroneous. Maybe, we are not as yet ready to recognise
> > > it and accept its implications because, for instance, it would upset
> > > our judgement and our judicial norms.
>
> > > It is nevertheless undeniable that thought, of the kind of Kant's,
> > > arise from the same continuity ground from which, say, Nazism took
> > > demagogic advantage of.
>
> > > Before you chase me out of the ground, let me confess that Spinoza and
> > > Kant were two philosophers who ruled the longest on my developing mind
> > > among all western philosophers.
>
> > > On Sep 3, 5:52 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On 3 Sep., 11:07, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:> Or duty may have
> > > > had some influence in the rise of Nazi Germany/
> > > > > Fascism.
>
> > > > Seeing Kant as an ideological antecedent for the Nazis is like placing
> > > > the responsiblity for Charles Manson on the Beatles.
>
> > > > Francis
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