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On Sep 3, 9:36 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > good luck with that, she's really gone! > > On Sep 3, 12:34 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Maybe you could chase gabby, fran, she's closer, no? > > > On Sep 3, 9:53 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I wouldn't dream of chasing you out of any ground, Vam, more likely, > > > after seeing my feeble attempts at cricket, that you would be the one > > > chasing me out of the ground! > > > > On a more general level you're right of course, in the sense that the > > > past is always there in the present, and that some Nazi idealogues (I > > > don't think Hitler's own educational level would have given any deep > > > insight into philosophy) would have been acquainted with Kant's work. > > > In the same way, Nazi ideology took over some ideas of Nietzsche (eg. > > > the "Übermensch"), without really understanding his philosophy (and > > > conveniently forgetting that Nietzsche couldn't stand anti-semitism, > > > for example, and broke off his friendship to Wagner over precisely > > > this issue). > > > > Naziism/Fascism are bastard, incoherent developments out of many > > > trends and memes in the history of western thought. > > > > Francis > > > > On 3 Sep., 15:33, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Fran, you're right, of course ! > > > > > But that, this limiting of effects of human thought within discreet > > > > limits, is also erroneous. Maybe, we are not as yet ready to recognise > > > > it and accept its implications because, for instance, it would upset > > > > our judgement and our judicial norms. > > > > > It is nevertheless undeniable that thought, of the kind of Kant's, > > > > arise from the same continuity ground from which, say, Nazism took > > > > demagogic advantage of. > > > > > Before you chase me out of the ground, let me confess that Spinoza and > > > > Kant were two philosophers who ruled the longest on my developing mind > > > > among all western philosophers. > > > > > On Sep 3, 5:52 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On 3 Sep., 11:07, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:> Or duty may > > > > > have had some influence in the rise of Nazi Germany/ > > > > > > Fascism. > > > > > > Seeing Kant as an ideological antecedent for the Nazis is like placing > > > > > the responsiblity for Charles Manson on the Beatles. > > > > > > Francis- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
