" However, I seriously doubt they could take it to the same esoteric
and vaporous levels of perception as is done here among and within
ourselves."

I am absolutely certain, Gruff, those perceptions happen with them.
They of course need do nothing for it to happen. Especially in respect
of a ' baby,' who is without nearly all of knowledge and ideas and
names that we adults possess, it is we who 'd have difficulty
fathoming what the baby perception of a table would be.


On Sep 11, 6:48 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> Vam, I thought that's what I was doing ... stimulating some reflection
> in both myself and with any luck others as well.  But on to further
> stimulation, if what I call a table is perceived by a child as
> something which they have never seen before and can neither name nor
> identify they can still perceive it as something which is used as a
> place to set things above the ground or some other such similar
> perception.  They don't need to have the same name -- or any name --
> for it as I do but they can perceive and even use its functionality.
> They can even address it by pointing at it as a place where perhaps a
> bottle, toy or food rests.  However, I seriously doubt they could take
> it to the same esoteric and vaporous levels of perception as is done
> here among and within ourselves.
>
> On Sep 10, 7:30 am, Vam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Gruff, this is just to stimulate some reflection.
>
> > What is a ' table,'  of which term you are so clear and convinced
> > about, in the eyes of a baby or child who has never seen or heard of a
> > table before ?
>
> > Is it still a ' table,' the one you mean ?  Is it something specific,
> > but not known or understood ?  Is it something but not specific, and
> > unknown ?  Or, is it ' nothing ?'- Hide quoted text -
>
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