Yes. The phenomenon pertains to forms perceived and the instruments of perception ... senses and the mind.
On Sep 10, 3:49 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > So you do not think it possible that if a person goes without water > for long enough that they will fall unconcious? > > On 10 Sep, 11:40, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Consciousness, No. The forms perceived in consciousness, Yes. The > > functioning of instruments of perception, Yes. > > > On Sep 10, 3:07 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > That really has no bearing on the matter Vam. You admit that going > > > without water affects concioussness, yes? > > > > We all know how important water is in keeping the body working > > > properly, yes? > > > > We can certianly then infer that if conciousness is effected by a lack > > > of water, as are all biological functions, then conciousness is a > > > function of biology, yes or no? > > > > On 10 Sep, 10:41, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > " conciousness must be part of the brain, must be part of our biology > > > > otherwise how would a lack of water for 30 days affect it? " > > > > > Children are affected by lightening, even traumatised by earthquakes. > > > > That does not mean children are born of lightening or earthquakes, > > > > Lee ! > > > > > On Sep 10, 2:35 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hey Vam did you not notcie this bit: > > > > > > '(apart from our bodies dependancy upon it of course)' > > > > > > Now taking this and what you have said here then it shows that > > > > > conciousness must be part of the brain, must be part of our biology > > > > > otherwise how would a lack of water for 30 days affect it? > > > > > > On 9 Sep, 17:33, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Try using your mind after 30 days of going without water, Lee ! > > > > > > You'll understand how important water is to cognitive access to > > > > > > forms > > > > > > of consciousness. The last part was deliberately expressed, as I do > > > > > > not believe that nothing has anything to with consciousness ( pure, > > > > > > like space ) per se but only with forms perceived in consciousness. > > > > > > > On Sep 9, 6:20 pm, "[email protected]" > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Umm there seems some flaw here, now what is it? > > > > > > > > Ahhh yes! > > > > > > > > If I was to suggest that to manipulate where a car goes you need > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > use the stearing wheel, that sounds about right yes? > > > > > > > > I was to further say that a stearing wheel does not in fact stear > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > car, it only manipulates where the car can be steared, then maybe > > > > > > > you'll begin to see what is wrong with your statement above? > > > > > > > > If we can manipulate our conciousness via the use of electricity > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > chemicals, then it is safe to assume that our conciousness uses > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > electricity and chemicals in order to work, yes or no? > > > > > > > > Or put in another way. If I drink a glass of water and notice no > > > > > > > change in the way my conciousness is working then it is safe to > > > > > > > suggest that water is not a mechinism that conciousness uses in > > > > > > > order > > > > > > > to work.(apart from our bodies dependancy upon it of course) > > > > > > > > On 5 Sep, 14:48, Justintruth <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > These experiments lend a lot of experimental support to > > > > > > > > > > consciousness being primarily chemical and electrical. > > > > > > > > > Actually they do not. > > > > > > > > > They just lend a lot of experimental support to consciousness > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > manipulate-able through chemical and electrical manipulation of > > > > > > > > ones > > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > > > But we already knew that. All it takes is to ingest a beer (or > > > > > > > > two), > > > > > > > > or -and I am not an advocate- ingest some LSD, and you will > > > > > > > > know.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
