Okay let me get this right Vam, you say that if you go without water for long enough that you will NOT fall unconcious as conciouness does not reside in the brain?
On 10 Sep, 12:05, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes. The phenomenon pertains to forms perceived and the instruments of > perception ... senses and the mind. > > On Sep 10, 3:49 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > So you do not think it possible that if a person goes without water > > for long enough that they will fall unconcious? > > > On 10 Sep, 11:40, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Consciousness, No. The forms perceived in consciousness, Yes. The > > > functioning of instruments of perception, Yes. > > > > On Sep 10, 3:07 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > That really has no bearing on the matter Vam. You admit that going > > > > without water affects concioussness, yes? > > > > > We all know how important water is in keeping the body working > > > > properly, yes? > > > > > We can certianly then infer that if conciousness is effected by a lack > > > > of water, as are all biological functions, then conciousness is a > > > > function of biology, yes or no? > > > > > On 10 Sep, 10:41, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > " conciousness must be part of the brain, must be part of our biology > > > > > otherwise how would a lack of water for 30 days affect it? " > > > > > > Children are affected by lightening, even traumatised by earthquakes. > > > > > That does not mean children are born of lightening or earthquakes, > > > > > Lee ! > > > > > > On Sep 10, 2:35 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hey Vam did you not notcie this bit: > > > > > > > '(apart from our bodies dependancy upon it of course)' > > > > > > > Now taking this and what you have said here then it shows that > > > > > > conciousness must be part of the brain, must be part of our biology > > > > > > otherwise how would a lack of water for 30 days affect it? > > > > > > > On 9 Sep, 17:33, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Try using your mind after 30 days of going without water, Lee ! > > > > > > > You'll understand how important water is to cognitive access to > > > > > > > forms > > > > > > > of consciousness. The last part was deliberately expressed, as I > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > not believe that nothing has anything to with consciousness ( > > > > > > > pure, > > > > > > > like space ) per se but only with forms perceived in > > > > > > > consciousness. > > > > > > > > On Sep 9, 6:20 pm, "[email protected]" > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Umm there seems some flaw here, now what is it? > > > > > > > > > Ahhh yes! > > > > > > > > > If I was to suggest that to manipulate where a car goes you > > > > > > > > need to > > > > > > > > use the stearing wheel, that sounds about right yes? > > > > > > > > > I was to further say that a stearing wheel does not in fact > > > > > > > > stear the > > > > > > > > car, it only manipulates where the car can be steared, then > > > > > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > you'll begin to see what is wrong with your statement above? > > > > > > > > > If we can manipulate our conciousness via the use of > > > > > > > > electricity and > > > > > > > > chemicals, then it is safe to assume that our conciousness uses > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > electricity and chemicals in order to work, yes or no? > > > > > > > > > Or put in another way. If I drink a glass of water and notice > > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > change in the way my conciousness is working then it is safe to > > > > > > > > suggest that water is not a mechinism that conciousness uses in > > > > > > > > order > > > > > > > > to work.(apart from our bodies dependancy upon it of course) > > > > > > > > > On 5 Sep, 14:48, Justintruth <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > These experiments lend a lot of experimental support to > > > > > > > > > > > consciousness being primarily chemical and electrical. > > > > > > > > > > Actually they do not. > > > > > > > > > > They just lend a lot of experimental support to consciousness > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > manipulate-able through chemical and electrical manipulation > > > > > > > > > of ones > > > > > > > > > brain. > > > > > > > > > > But we already knew that. All it takes is to ingest a beer > > > > > > > > > (or two), > > > > > > > > > or -and I am not an advocate- ingest some LSD, and you will > > > > > > > > > know.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
