There was an Irish Wake beneath my feet in the early 1950's- I did not
attend. Maybe city codes have eliminated this practice. Some still
bury small pets in the garden- Velveeta boxes wrapped in foil work
well for birds and small reptiles and I suggested my neighbor bury her
small dog in a covered roasting pan but think she faltered. Statues of
St. Joseph are now buried in the garden to speed a home sale! //The
emphasis was on the Catechism, Sacraments and the Mass for Catholics
of my generation- the Bible was given a course of its own as
"literature" in college. Since we were ill-prepared for real life-
lol- we learned to pray on our own as time went by and the design
seems personal- ranging from acceptance to challege- and is
undoubtedly influenced by our awareness of other cultures/practices.
The mystery remains as to whom I am praying to though prayers have
been answered or rejected- I haven't kept a tally.

On Sep 10, 3:33 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> We are not all from the same culture and I think that each culture,
> even within the same umbrella religion, can have their own treatment
> of prayer.  I was taught as a child to say the words of traditional
> prayers and not much more.  Adding the practice of meditation and
> contemplation to those words brought feeling to them for me.  The more
> I read about the historical and cultural use of prayer, the clearer it
> became to me that the ideas and feelings behind the words make all the
> difference in effecting internal change for us.  The Navajo tribe has
> a practice of prayer that involves feeling as if the desired were
> true.  There prayer for rain involves a submersion of feeling that it
> is now raining.  Some Gnostic and Essene Christian traditions present
> the same idea of prayer.  Certainly, the ancient Egyptian Hermetic
> practices were similar.  Many Buddhist and Islamic and Jewish
> traditions as well.  It can be confusing because there are so many
> different cultural practices within the same "religion."  I was
> surprised to find, as a kid, that Puerto Rican Catholics insisted on
> constant prayer for three days near the body of someone who died.  As
> an Irish Catholic, I did not hear of it.  Here in the US, Catholic
> children are not given bible study, Francis tells me this is different
> in other parts of the world.  Given all the different traditions, I am
> not surprised at the varied ideas on prayer.
>
> On Sep 10, 3:42 pm, Simon Ewins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > 2009/9/10 ornamentalmind <[email protected]>:
>
> > > Not embracing an anthropomorphic ‘god’, I find it difficult to
> > > participate in this conference about prayer. And I and I know others
> > > here hold that intentional contemplation/meditation etc. can and does
> > > produce positive result(s).
>
> > I would be surprised if it didn't. Unless you are suicidal I should
> > think that introspection is always a good thing.
>
> > I am puzzled though.
>
> > Are people calling that prayer now? When did the word get hi-jacked?
>
> > I have been under the impression for a number of decades that prayer
> > involves beseeching, praising, supplication and a deity or spirit
> > being.- Hide quoted text -
>
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