On 28 Sep, 15:30, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> nothing is neither good nor bad but thinking that makes it so.. Can the
> universe be actually created with out good or evil,, but that comes from the
> thinking of man..
>
Yes, very true. Good and evil are perceptions, but all perceptions
must have an inception and the inception was on the second day of
Creation.
> I see the purpose of life and free will id to find harmony and balance
> within the creator (God) and each person is ?rewarded? by their progression
> to or away from this goal. IMO the concept of good and evil is very
> destructive when it comes to advancing in spirituality.
> Allan
>
You got that right, mate!! Thus the relevance of stoicism.
>
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> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On 28 Sep, 13:29, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I don't think so Pat,, as it was an old jewish rabbi that explained it to
> > > me,, out balance is brought on by the concept of evil and not equality.
> > > Allan
>
> > Then, if I were you, I would remind the good Rabbi that, in Genesis,
> > in reference to the second day of Creation, there is no phrase, 'that
> > it was good', like there are with the other days. In the Zohar, it is
> > explained that it was on the second day that evil was created by the
> > Creator. I would take issue with the Rabbi and tell him to go and
> > study some more. Alternatively, how could One know good without evil
> > or vice versa? Both would be seen to be required if either are to be
> > recognised.
>
> > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Pat <[email protected]
> > >wrote:
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> > > > On 26 Sep, 01:42, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > well Chris and Orn forgetting the people who are impressed with
> > > > themselves,
> > > > > other than a a starting point I personally find the thought
> > interesting.
> > > > > One of the definitions I found for perfect years ago was "Complete
> > > > Whole
> > > > > Hearted and In Balance" now this could also be used to define good.
> > > > basing
> > > > > good off that definition then Yes God is Good.
> > > > > Allan
>
> > > > Surely if God is 'in balance', there must be an equal amount of evil
> > > > to balance any good. Therefore, God is equally both good and evil.
> > > > Is that 'good'? Accepting that God is 'in balance', rules out a view
> > > > that He is 'All Good', whilst the adjective could still be used to
> > > > describe that one, single attribute.
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> > > > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 1:41 AM, ornamentalmind <
> > > > [email protected]>wrote:
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> > > > > > *** chuckles ***
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> > > > > > "Is God Good By Definition?" is copyright © 1992 by Graham Oppy.
> > All
> > > > > > rights reserved.
> > > > > > The electronic version is copyright © 1998 by Internet Infidels
> > with
> > > > > > the written permission of Graham Oppy. All rights reserved.
>
> > > > > > On Sep 25, 3:52 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/graham_oppy/god.html
> > > > > > > This article touches on a few points we've discussed recently.
> > > > Thoughts?
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