No, I don't want that either. I am very grateful that the cosmetics industry is providing us with all the necessary stuff to protect us from having to wear a burqa.
On 1 Okt., 18:46, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > I will let the other mods handle your obvious attack on my character. > I suggest you give it up and stop making yourself look bad. > > On Oct 1, 12:26 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > If the following were true Molly, we could come to a meeting of the > > minds on the topic today. "…I do not step into one of your > > conversations (arguments might be a better word for you) and insinuate > > less than civil or adult behavior…” > > > And, you are correct in that on occasion gabby gets her 'eye' on the > > truth...the above included. > > > What you call 'pulling them out' as well as personal criticism, the > > above included, all too often is cleverly veiled Argument by Poetic > > Language at best and Argument by Emotive Language at worst. > > > I saw what could have been an unnecessary battle and attempted levity > > to defuse it, one possible method. Others are available. So, > > ‘leadership’ remains intact. ‘Tintilation’ was nowhere to be found in > > my psyche in this case….although clearly it was to be found. > > > I make no claim to moral purity nor purity of style when it comes to > > my posting. I don’t think any other of the moderators do either. We > > simply call ‘em as we see ‘em….you included. > > > Since I was ‘called out’ in a public way, I respond in like manner. > > Perhaps a back channel between us would help to pacify the situation. > > I don’t know. I know that I start with my biases, however I will chat > > w/you one on one unless/until it becomes fruitless. Fire when ready! > > > On Oct 1, 5:21 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Orn, I do not step into one of your conversations (arguments might be > > > a better word for you) and insinuate less than civil or adult > > > behavior. I will here, publicly, ask you to stop this kind of > > > ridicule that you find necessary to heap on me. Gabby can be obscure > > > in her posts and has also been known to troll, but often has salient > > > points and interesting ideas. I like to try to draw them out when she > > > addresses me directly. I find your comments to be piling on and > > > more in the line of trolling than any constructive leadership. Your > > > comment, if any, would be considered outside the guidelines, so stop > > > it. Your image of two women physically fighting might be funny or > > > tintilating to you, but I find it offensive and demeaning. Man up, > > > Orn, and if you can't lead as a moderator, give it up. > > > > Any further discussion here, I think, should be offline between > > > moderators. > > > > On Oct 1, 2:17 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Very dismissive Molly. You two go right ahead, just no hair pulling! > > > > > On Sep 30, 3:58 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > very patronizing, Orn. If gabby has an interpretation of the Blake > > > > > quote, I would like to hear it. > > > > > > On Sep 30, 6:51 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Here endith the ‘tis’, ‘tisn’t’ debate, OK “girls”? > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 2:43 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > No, do you? > > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 4:45 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Do you need a fresh-up on twin tower experiences that you come > > > > > > > > up with > > > > > > > > this very loose interpretation of poor old Blakey? > > > > > > > > > On 30 Sep., 21:09, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > William Blake: > > > > > > > > > > 'Then those in Great Eternity who contemplate on Death > > > > > > > > > Said thus. What seems to Be: Is: To those to whom > > > > > > > > > It seems to Be, & is productive of the most dreadful > > > > > > > > > Consequences to those to whom it seems to Be" > > > > > > > > > > Contemplating on death is seeing the limitation in your > > > > > > > > > experience. A > > > > > > > > > focus on the dreadful consequences becomes the experience of > > > > > > > > > those to > > > > > > > > > whom it seems to be. Seeing the eternal life removes the > > > > > > > > > limits. The > > > > > > > > > dreadful consequences are no longer central to the experience. > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 11:55 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > "Axis of evil" is a term coined by United States President > > > > > > > > > > George W. > > > > > > > > > > Bush in his State of the Union Address on January 29, 2002 > > > > > > > > > > in order to > > > > > > > > > > describe governments that he accused of helping terrorism > > > > > > > > > > and seeking > > > > > > > > > > weapons of mass destruction. President Bush named Iran, > > > > > > > > > > Iraq and North > > > > > > > > > > Korea in his speech. President Bush's presidency was marked > > > > > > > > > > by this > > > > > > > > > > notion as a justification for the War on Terror. > > > > > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_of_evil > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 10:40 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Well in that line of reasoning we could simply say that > > > > > > > > > > > there must be > > > > > > > > > > > a creator of God and of that creator as well, setting off > > > > > > > > > > > an endless > > > > > > > > > > > series of the creator's creators. We know of the > > > > > > > > > > > universe, of vacuums > > > > > > > > > > > and phenomena. We see, utilize, experience and > > > > > > > > > > > understand much of it > > > > > > > > > > > and perhaps within the nothingness there is the > > > > > > > > > > > consciousness that is > > > > > > > > > > > all things. However, all things did not come with books > > > > > > > > > > > to tell us > > > > > > > > > > > that they are because they are simply there, before > > > > > > > > > > > books. Lightning > > > > > > > > > > > and thunder are there but it is the book that told people > > > > > > > > > > > what the > > > > > > > > > > > lightning and thunder were, not by science but by simple > > > > > > > > > > > rationale, > > > > > > > > > > > naive reasoning and superstitious fears. I can > > > > > > > > > > > understand if the > > > > > > > > > > > belief is that God is the essence of all things, of all > > > > > > > > > > > life, but I > > > > > > > > > > > just don't subscribe to books written by the ancients > > > > > > > > > > > that conjure > > > > > > > > > > > fear, promote discrimination, justify torture, and > > > > > > > > > > > literally allow > > > > > > > > > > > humanity to audaciously claim divinity and creation in > > > > > > > > > > > the image of > > > > > > > > > > > God . The stories and the history of it all is absurd > > > > > > > > > > > and ludicrous. > > > > > > > > > > > Sure there is some insightful biblical content but > > > > > > > > > > > Gibran's The > > > > > > > > > > > Prophet and others are as well. We could read Aristotle, > > > > > > > > > > > Plato, > > > > > > > > > > > Ghandi and others and get some degree of enlightenment. > > > > > > > > > > > You expect me > > > > > > > > > > > to believe that only those desert/cave dwellers were > > > > > > > > > > > capable of > > > > > > > > > > > writing something that could be considered the word of > > > > > > > > > > > God, what are > > > > > > > > > > > we today a bunch of morons, or were they? To think that > > > > > > > > > > > I can't have > > > > > > > > > > > a happy life full of richness and reward unless I believe > > > > > > > > > > > in the bible > > > > > > > > > > > is, to me, ridiculous. Why people waste their time with > > > > > > > > > > > it instead of > > > > > > > > > > > getting down to the business of living is beyond > > > > > > > > > > > comprehension. In my > > > > > > > > > > > view more time has be wasted and often progress stifled > > > > > > > > > > > by the > > > > > > > > > > > conflicts surrounding these beliefs. Look at all the > > > > > > > > > > > countries that > > > > > > > > > > > are polarized by all this religious nonsense. Religion > > > > > > > > > > > may have > > > > > > > > > > > served a purpose when the land was in chaos as it brought > > > > > > > > > > > some sense > > > > > > > > > > > of direction and a semblance of order, but then again the > > > > > > > > > > > preachings > > > > > > > > > > > of Peter of celibacy caused a great uproar among the > > > > > > > > > > > aristocracy of > > > > > > > > > > > the time and caused his crucifixion, upside down I might > > > > > > > > > > > add, even > > > > > > > > > > > then only if the story is true and maybe he should had > > > > > > > > > > > remembered the > > > > > > > > > > > commandment, "be fruitful, multiply and fill the earth". > > > > > > > > > > > In today's > > > > > > > > > > > world I find religion to be simply a huge nuisance and a > > > > > > > > > > > barrier to > > > > > > > > > > > humanity's progress. How many wars are currently in > > > > > > > > > > > engagement on > > > > > > > > > > > account of religion? How much death, pain and suffering > > > > > > > > > > > can we > > > > > > > > > > > attribute to these archaic beliefs? Bush claimed the God > > > > > > > > > > > wanted him > > > > > > > > > > > to be president and then bombed the hell out of Iraq, > > > > > > > > > > > killing > > > > > > > > > > > thousands. He claimed an "axis of evil" and what basis > > > > > > > > > > > of thought > > > > > > > > > > > would lead one to conclude that? If we could just > > > > > > > > > > > address the needs > > > > > > > > > > > of the world, find ways of living that benefit all then > > > > > > > > > > > we might see > > > > > > > > > > > the end of religious persecution and separatism. Please > > > > > > > > > > > note I'm not > > > > > > > > > > > angry about any of it, I'm glad I'm free of it all and > > > > > > > > > > > I'm having a > > > > > > > > > > > wonderful day. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 8:52 am, Justintruth <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > It turns out that energy is not a conserved quantity in > > > > > > > > > > > > physics. That > > > > > > > > > > > > is just a local phenomena. See General Relativity by > > > > > > > > > > > > Wald. I was > > > > > > > > > > > > amazed to read it but apparently its as true as the > > > > > > > > > > > > latest physics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > You say "energy is" but where is god? > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many things that are besides energy no? And > > > > > > > > > > > > none of them are > > > > > > > > > > > > the reason that they are. Why is energy so special? > > > > > > > > > > > > Anything that is > > > > > > > > > > > > not the reason for its existence must rely on some > > > > > > > > > > > > other principle to > > > > > > > > > > > > distinguish it from the non-existing. You said. "Energy > > > > > > > > > > > > is". If I say > > > > > > > > > > > > that means it "has being" would you agree? And wouldn't > > > > > > > > > > > > you also agree > > > > > > > > > > > > that the fact that it is, is not energy? The fact that > > > > > > > > > > > > it is is > > > > > > > > > > > > being, right? Color is. And color is not the reason > > > > > > > > > > > > that color is. The > > > > > > > > > > > > fact that color is, is because it is, not because it > > > > > > > > > > > > has color. So > > > > > > > > > > > > again, > > ... > > Erfahren Sie mehr » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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