Amen, sister.
On Oct 1, 4:35 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> No, I don't want that either. I am very grateful that the cosmetics
> industry is providing us with all the necessary stuff to protect us
> from having to wear a burqa.
>
> On 1 Okt., 18:46, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I will let the other mods handle your obvious attack on my character.
> > I suggest you give it up and stop making yourself look bad.
>
> > On Oct 1, 12:26 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > If the following were true Molly, we could come to a meeting of the
> > > minds on the topic today. "…I do not step into one of your
> > > conversations (arguments might be a better word for you) and insinuate
> > > less than civil or adult behavior…”
>
> > > And, you are correct in that on occasion gabby gets her 'eye' on the
> > > truth...the above included.
>
> > > What you call 'pulling them out' as well as personal criticism, the
> > > above included, all too often is cleverly veiled Argument by Poetic
> > > Language at best and Argument by Emotive Language at worst.
>
> > > I saw what could have been an unnecessary battle and attempted levity
> > > to defuse it, one possible method. Others are available. So,
> > > ‘leadership’ remains intact. ‘Tintilation’ was nowhere to be found in
> > > my psyche in this case….although clearly it was to be found.
>
> > > I make no claim to moral purity nor purity of style when it comes to
> > > my posting. I don’t think any other of the moderators do either. We
> > > simply call ‘em as we see ‘em….you included.
>
> > > Since I was ‘called out’ in a public way, I respond in like manner.
> > > Perhaps a back channel between us would help to pacify the situation.
> > > I don’t know. I know that I start with my biases, however I will chat
> > > w/you one on one unless/until it becomes fruitless. Fire when ready!
>
> > > On Oct 1, 5:21 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Orn, I do not step into one of your conversations (arguments might be
> > > > a better word for you) and insinuate less than civil or adult
> > > > behavior. I will here, publicly, ask you to stop this kind of
> > > > ridicule that you find necessary to heap on me. Gabby can be obscure
> > > > in her posts and has also been known to troll, but often has salient
> > > > points and interesting ideas. I like to try to draw them out when she
> > > > addresses me directly. I find your comments to be piling on and
> > > > more in the line of trolling than any constructive leadership. Your
> > > > comment, if any, would be considered outside the guidelines, so stop
> > > > it. Your image of two women physically fighting might be funny or
> > > > tintilating to you, but I find it offensive and demeaning. Man up,
> > > > Orn, and if you can't lead as a moderator, give it up.
>
> > > > Any further discussion here, I think, should be offline between
> > > > moderators.
>
> > > > On Oct 1, 2:17 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Very dismissive Molly. You two go right ahead, just no hair pulling!
>
> > > > > On Sep 30, 3:58 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > very patronizing, Orn. If gabby has an interpretation of the Blake
> > > > > > quote, I would like to hear it.
>
> > > > > > On Sep 30, 6:51 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Here endith the ‘tis’, ‘tisn’t’ debate, OK “girls”?
>
> > > > > > > On Sep 30, 2:43 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > No, do you?
>
> > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 4:45 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Do you need a fresh-up on twin tower experiences that you
> > > > > > > > > come up with
> > > > > > > > > this very loose interpretation of poor old Blakey?
>
> > > > > > > > > On 30 Sep., 21:09, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > William Blake:
>
> > > > > > > > > > 'Then those in Great Eternity who contemplate on Death
> > > > > > > > > > Said thus. What seems to Be: Is: To those to whom
> > > > > > > > > > It seems to Be, & is productive of the most dreadful
> > > > > > > > > > Consequences to those to whom it seems to Be"
>
> > > > > > > > > > Contemplating on death is seeing the limitation in your
> > > > > > > > > > experience. A
> > > > > > > > > > focus on the dreadful consequences becomes the experience
> > > > > > > > > > of those to
> > > > > > > > > > whom it seems to be. Seeing the eternal life removes the
> > > > > > > > > > limits. The
> > > > > > > > > > dreadful consequences are no longer central to the
> > > > > > > > > > experience.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 11:55 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > "Axis of evil" is a term coined by United States
> > > > > > > > > > > President George W.
> > > > > > > > > > > Bush in his State of the Union Address on January 29,
> > > > > > > > > > > 2002 in order to
> > > > > > > > > > > describe governments that he accused of helping terrorism
> > > > > > > > > > > and seeking
> > > > > > > > > > > weapons of mass destruction. President Bush named Iran,
> > > > > > > > > > > Iraq and North
> > > > > > > > > > > Korea in his speech. President Bush's presidency was
> > > > > > > > > > > marked by this
> > > > > > > > > > > notion as a justification for the War on Terror.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_of_evil
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 10:40 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Well in that line of reasoning we could simply say that
> > > > > > > > > > > > there must be
> > > > > > > > > > > > a creator of God and of that creator as well, setting
> > > > > > > > > > > > off an endless
> > > > > > > > > > > > series of the creator's creators. We know of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > universe, of vacuums
> > > > > > > > > > > > and phenomena. We see, utilize, experience and
> > > > > > > > > > > > understand much of it
> > > > > > > > > > > > and perhaps within the nothingness there is the
> > > > > > > > > > > > consciousness that is
> > > > > > > > > > > > all things. However, all things did not come with
> > > > > > > > > > > > books to tell us
> > > > > > > > > > > > that they are because they are simply there, before
> > > > > > > > > > > > books. Lightning
> > > > > > > > > > > > and thunder are there but it is the book that told
> > > > > > > > > > > > people what the
> > > > > > > > > > > > lightning and thunder were, not by science but by
> > > > > > > > > > > > simple rationale,
> > > > > > > > > > > > naive reasoning and superstitious fears. I can
> > > > > > > > > > > > understand if the
> > > > > > > > > > > > belief is that God is the essence of all things, of all
> > > > > > > > > > > > life, but I
> > > > > > > > > > > > just don't subscribe to books written by the ancients
> > > > > > > > > > > > that conjure
> > > > > > > > > > > > fear, promote discrimination, justify torture, and
> > > > > > > > > > > > literally allow
> > > > > > > > > > > > humanity to audaciously claim divinity and creation in
> > > > > > > > > > > > the image of
> > > > > > > > > > > > God . The stories and the history of it all is absurd
> > > > > > > > > > > > and ludicrous.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sure there is some insightful biblical content but
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gibran's The
> > > > > > > > > > > > Prophet and others are as well. We could read
> > > > > > > > > > > > Aristotle, Plato,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ghandi and others and get some degree of enlightenment.
> > > > > > > > > > > > You expect me
> > > > > > > > > > > > to believe that only those desert/cave dwellers were
> > > > > > > > > > > > capable of
> > > > > > > > > > > > writing something that could be considered the word of
> > > > > > > > > > > > God, what are
> > > > > > > > > > > > we today a bunch of morons, or were they? To think
> > > > > > > > > > > > that I can't have
> > > > > > > > > > > > a happy life full of richness and reward unless I
> > > > > > > > > > > > believe in the bible
> > > > > > > > > > > > is, to me, ridiculous. Why people waste their time
> > > > > > > > > > > > with it instead of
> > > > > > > > > > > > getting down to the business of living is beyond
> > > > > > > > > > > > comprehension. In my
> > > > > > > > > > > > view more time has be wasted and often progress stifled
> > > > > > > > > > > > by the
> > > > > > > > > > > > conflicts surrounding these beliefs. Look at all the
> > > > > > > > > > > > countries that
> > > > > > > > > > > > are polarized by all this religious nonsense. Religion
> > > > > > > > > > > > may have
> > > > > > > > > > > > served a purpose when the land was in chaos as it
> > > > > > > > > > > > brought some sense
> > > > > > > > > > > > of direction and a semblance of order, but then again
> > > > > > > > > > > > the preachings
> > > > > > > > > > > > of Peter of celibacy caused a great uproar among the
> > > > > > > > > > > > aristocracy of
> > > > > > > > > > > > the time and caused his crucifixion, upside down I
> > > > > > > > > > > > might add, even
> > > > > > > > > > > > then only if the story is true and maybe he should had
> > > > > > > > > > > > remembered the
> > > > > > > > > > > > commandment, "be fruitful, multiply and fill the
> > > > > > > > > > > > earth". In today's
> > > > > > > > > > > > world I find religion to be simply a huge nuisance and
> > > > > > > > > > > > a barrier to
> > > > > > > > > > > > humanity's progress. How many wars are currently in
> > > > > > > > > > > > engagement on
> > > > > > > > > > > > account of religion? How much death, pain and
> > > > > > > > > > > > suffering can we
> > > > > > > > > > > > attribute to these archaic beliefs? Bush claimed the
> > > > > > > > > > > > God wanted him
> > > > > > > > > > > > to be president and then bombed the hell out of Iraq,
> > > > > > > > > > > > killing
> > > > > > > > > > > > thousands. He claimed an "axis of evil" and what basis
> > > > > > > > > > > > of thought
> > > > > > > > > > > > would lead one to conclude that? If we could just
> > > > > > > > > > > > address the needs
> > > > > > > > > > > > of the world, find ways of living that benefit all then
> > > > > > > > > > > > we might see
> > > > > > > > > > > > the end of religious persecution and separatism.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Please note I'm not
> > > > > > > > > > > > angry about any of it, I'm glad I'm free of it all and
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm having a
> > > > > > > > > > > > wonderful day.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 8:52 am, Justintruth
> > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It turns out that energy is not a conserved quantity
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in physics. That
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is just a local phenomena. See General Relativity by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wald. I was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > amazed to read it but apparently its as true as the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > latest physics.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You say "energy is" but where is god?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many things that are besides energy no? And
> > > > > > > > > > > > > none of them are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the reason that they are. Why is energy so special?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anything that is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not the reason for its existence must rely on some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > other principle to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > distinguish it from the non-existing. You said.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Energy is". If I say
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that means it "has being" would you agree? And
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't you also agree
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that the fact that it is, is not energy? The fact
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that it is is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > being, right? Color is. And color is not the reason
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that color is. The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > fact that color is, is because it is, not because it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > has color. So
> > > > > > > > > > > > > again,
>
> > ...
>
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