I guess I'll always feel more alive in Glasgow than in Edinburgh and the hot whiskey treatment more amusing than the vitamin C and early-to- bed treatment. Hey, congrats, Francis, to Ireland eventually joining the EU party after having recovered from their minor cold.
On 3 Okt., 19:28, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > Perhaps the Nazis were only preparing the way for private medicine - > removing all those people likely to cost insurance companies money. > Down the road there is a woman living in a £300,000 house costing the > State about £250,000 a year to maintain with her 4 autistic kids - she > knew it was very likely her children would be so. We allow this kind > of thing whilst not operating on fat people or smokers, letting others > die as drugs are too expensive and so on. I wonder at what point > those advocating private medicine recognise just how 'ableist' they > a > are? I'd bet many of them are PC freaks. ayment to professionals making themselves > in short supply is probably where our focus should be. Medical > students are not much brighter than the rest and a lot of doctoring > jobs are actually pretty simple compared with the training they forget > (much of it useless) - we could easily train more doctors, do it > quicker (by taking on mature people) and bring down the salary > overhead. The bureaucrats could all be sent to the Happy Valley Year > Zero 'community farm'. Wouldn't matter then whether medicine was > nationalised or private. > > We've been misled on this debate for decades - even know I see > articles fro McKinsey drones claiming private medicine is much g privat nnovative and efficient. Cobblers! Both forms can be highly > inefficient. Singapore may be best and that place is ruthlessly > organised. The very medical insurance won by unions is now the reason > our manufacturing firms can't compete. The jobs that have gone are > always replaced by dud ones with dismal conditions or (here) in the > public sector doing bureaucracy. Something structural has changed > that make our arguments in this area completely dud. I would > personally whip the benefit hordes back to work if there was any work > (other than in flogging). Even if Francis had private insurance, he > might lose it in retirement - in the good old UK many will lose > pensions (already have) and other benefits. In the US all it takes is > for someone to have had it away with the funds in so-called good > times. > > Even arguments that NHS-style provision leads to foreigners coming in > to rip off our hard work are shaky - we've been lazing away eating > their cheaply produced food for decades and relying on their cheap > labour and miserable working conditions. Even if we've been putting > the hours in it's likely lots of the effort was for no decent > purpose. According to Hannah Arendt, the Nazis were very good at > practising banal evil and even ising who worked in the notorious > 'baby factories' claimed not to understand what they were doing, not > to know what concentration camps were for and so on. Just because we > don't see people dying as our bureaucracy shields us from the actual > death, doesn't mean we aren't making the same cowardly decisions the > Nazi-followers made. What sort of idiot really thinks the richest > nation on Earth can't afford a system like that of creaky old > England! An idiot who can't recognise he is stealing treatment from > an overseas qualified staff needed back home I would guess. > > On 3 Oct, 17:48, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Gorby has come out recently and has comet Thatcher and other right- > > wing flopsther ed him to crush German reunification. I tend to find > > the country rather like the fair-minded, well educated and progressive > > Britain I was supposed to be living in. I rather liked my trips to > > the old DDR for that matter - there was even something good amongst > > the lunacy and repression. Even in this civilized country there is > > little real progress towards a real understanding of how we might live > > if we can break the military-consumerist fetish. Private medicine > > would be OK if insurance was a genuine form not based on only taking > > people unlikely to be ill - but we'd still need to restrict white > > collar criminals (doctors etc.) taking rip-off fees. > > > On 3 Oct, 14:31, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > And a happy German Unity Day to you t German Un > > > > I am in complete agreement with you on the health care issue. (Well, > > > ok, apart from anything else, I work in the health area :-)) I see us > > > facing difficult times > Germany in this area following the recent > > > election results. The so-called liberals (the junior partner in the > > > next government) are on record as saying they want the whole health > > > system completely privatised. Already the pressure towards a two-class > > > health system is growing. Free market experts talk about us all taking > > > more responsibility for ourselves and the availability of private > > > supplemental insurance. Even on a purely personal area it worries me - > > > as someone middle-aged, with a medical history of treated alcoholism > > > and an artificial hip, the rates I would have to pay for private > > > supplementary insurance are far beyond my means. > > > > The challenge for the united Germany remains the same as it was twenty > > > years ago - to achieve and maintain a just and fair society for all > > > its residents, whether in Duisburg or Dresden. > > > > Francis > > > > On 3 Okt., 14:44, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Let me explain. > > > > > I was born in West-Berlin 7 waars after West-Berls raised that > > > > protected the East from the fascism of the West. Unfortunately, West- > > > > Berlin was in the middle of East-Germany. My relatively poor geography > > > > marks give testimony of this circumstance. Times have changed and > > > > fascism has become a too difficult word to employ. Instead, becoming > > > > aware of the need to fight for the right idea has become more and more > > > > important. To have the right on my side has become the essence of our > > > > democracy. > > > > > Chris and Craig are right to assure each other (on Facebook) that our > > > > compulsory medical insurance system without a loud and heartfelt > > > > discussion on fines, penaltiesussion oth sentence for those who dream > > > > of dropping out of this system is wimpy and retarded. Welcome back, > > > > new fascism! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
