I'm still finding this really hard to understand.

Why procisly is a health service in which all patients recive free
healthcare, free that is at the point of service, considered a bad
thing for some?

What are their worries or their fears?

On 5 Oct, 03:14, Doris Ragland <[email protected]> wrote:
> I work in the Health insurance for years in US and processed claims in two
> major insurance company's  ..major medical..I think this.. as being self
> independent in our country
> is good and at one point was very good at a period of time here..but things
> changed where the company's you worked for cut out insurance for the
> workers..so to carry insurance totally by yourself is a great expense..here
> in America basicly the cost of the doctors went up to be a doctor and other
> medical area's to go for there degree's-the cost went up on medical
> supplies-the doctors had to get outrageous insurance just in case of being
> sued and so fourth- when I process claims and investgated the claims it took
> time to find out in detail the cases- that is added in on cost - I processed
> claims which the hospitals would charge five dollars for a bandaide--there
> is unreasonable cost I agree that should be brought into a right balance
> --the bandaide is just one example-I thought I would explain this to you in
> a little bit more detail-here in America we are trying to have a plan that
> all may have insurance- somewhat like canda--we tried for the last few years
> pass it..Myself I think everything needs to be put in check and a good
> balance..the medical department loses alot anyway when the people can"t pay
> there bills this does not make sense to me..it should not be this way.
> Maybe this will  give you an ideal what it is like -when the company you
> work for would let you carry insurance out with them and had HMO plans it
> would pay 80% of your medical and your could get your medicine for about
> five dollars per.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:48 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Gorby has come out recently and said that Thatcher and other right-
> > wing flops wanted him to crush German reunification.  I tend to find
> > the country rather like the fair-minded, well educated and progressive
> > Britain I was supposed to be living in.  I rather liked my trips to
> > the old DDR for that matter - there was even something good amongst
> > the lunacy and repression.  Even in this civilized country there is
> > little real progress towards a real understanding of how we might live
> > if we can break the military-consumerist fetish.  Private medicine
> > would be OK if insurance was a genuine form not based on only taking
> > people unlikely to be ill - but we'd still need to restrict white
> > collar criminals (doctors etc.) taking rip-off fees.
>
> > On 3 Oct, 14:31, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > And a happy German Unity Day to you too, Gabby!
>
> > > I am in complete agreement with you on the health care issue. (Well,
> > > ok, apart from anything else, I work in the health area :-)) I see us
> > > facing difficult times in Germany in this area following the recent
> > > election results. The so-called liberals (the junior partner in the
> > > next government) are on record as saying they want the whole health
> > > system completely privatised. Already the pressure towards a two-class
> > > health system is growing. Free market experts talk about us all taking
> > > more responsibility for ourselves and the availability of private
> > > supplemental insurance. Even on a purely personal area it worries me -
> > > as someone middle-aged, with a medical history of treated alcoholism
> > > and an artificial hip, the rates I would have to pay for private
> > > supplementary insurance are far beyond my means.
>
> > > The challenge for the united Germany remains the same as it was twenty
> > > years ago - to achieve and maintain a just and fair society for all
> > > its residents, whether in Duisburg or Dresden.
>
> > > Francis
>
> > > On 3 Okt., 14:44, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Let me explain.
>
> > > > I was born in West-Berlin 7 years after a wall was raised that
> > > > protected the East from the fascism of the West. Unfortunately, West-
> > > > Berlin was in the middle of East-Germany. My relatively poor geography
> > > > marks give testimony of this circumstance. Times have changed and
> > > > fascism has become a too difficult word to employ. Instead, becoming
> > > > aware of the need to fight for the right idea has become more and more
> > > > important. To have the right on my side has become the essence of our
> > > > democracy.
>
> > > > Chris and Craig are right to assure each other (on Facebook) that our
> > > > compulsory medical insurance system without a loud and heartfelt
> > > > discussion on fines, penalties and death sentence for those who dream
> > > > of dropping out of this system is wimpy and retarded. Welcome back,
> > > > new fascism!- Hide quoted text -
>
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