On 23 Oct, 17:57, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have often wondered what the new testament of the bible would be like if
> you removed the parts that are in reality are made up short stories used to
> sell a bill of goods. An example(s) being the nativity stories, the
> resurrection (misunderstood,) the writings of Saul Of Tarsus the book of
> revelations. to name a few
>
> I wonder if a book (it would probably be very short) getting rid of the
> exact interpretation but rather trying to expressed express the ideas that
> Jesus the man best wanted to express. I look at our group and the atheists
> and agnostics have a very valuable role in working out that validity of what
> is being said. There is a definite need to counter balance my own beliefs
> and those of other fanatics.
>
> To tell the truth this would be a total dream for me. There is an event
> astronomically that can be dated like a total solar eclipse over Jerusalem
> in 33 CE. I do know that there are religious fanatics in the Philippines
> that are crucified (literally) and they regularly survive it. I think these
> things need to be taken into account, from what I understand it actually
> takes several days to die that way.
>
> Here I have to admit I am jealous of the sheer enlightenment of spiritual
> knowledge Francis and other members of this group possess. I am hoping they
> will take to this idea.
> Allan
>
> (
> )
> I_D Allan
Luckily, the summary is still in the text:
1) Love God with all your heart, mind and being
and
2) Love your neighbour AS yourself.
'AS', in that usage means 'no different than' rather than 'like'.
This is the summation, too, of the Torah, as expounded by Hillel. In
fact, Hillel went so far as to state: 'all the rest is commentary'.
I'd like to hear, though, your 'explanation' of the resurrection,
because I just (within the past few days) ran across a possibility (in
the realms of "consciousness space" and mathematical functions applied
across it via Set Theory) that could, in fact, alter the past. Which,
if true for one individual (Jesus, in this case), could undo that
which is supposedly fixed in the past (i.e., his death and what led up
TO it). I need to develop it a bit more, but, if I had to encapsulate
it for you into one word, that word would be 'forgiveness'.
Forgiveness changes consciousness by disregarding thoughts...forever.
And the Standard Model has always posited that forces should extend in
all directions (equal and OPPOSITE reactions!!), so an attitude about
X, which is removed from consciousness via forgiveness, could well be
the physical/mathematical process that alters the past as much as it
can the future. I'll let you all think about THAT one for a
while... ;-)
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