On 26 Oct, 18:36, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've noticed details of the past that change as my state and stage of
> consciousness changes. I am not sure that we were meant to notice,
> as our viewpoint constructs the experience with such wonderful design
> detail, the possibility is a perfect fit, and so granular,
Indeed...to the quantum level.
> the change
> is usually imperceptible because our new state accommodates.
Exactly, thus science doesn't notice, as the awareness is 'gone' and
consciousness, in my physics, is outside of space-time, therefore
eternal.
>I do not
> know why I was privileged to notice, something along the lines of the
> privilege of clairvoyance - we don't ask why but are grateful for the
> insight.
If I may, I'd like to coin the term, "clairprehension" for that. You
didn't so much see it (the 'voyance' bit), but comprehend it.
>I can see how forgiveness would fit into this model, as
> unconditional forgiveness, like unconditional love, is a big leap of
> consciousness, and can be from dual to non dual.
Yes, absolutely unconditional forgiveness, for anything less is simply
NOT forgiveness.
>This changes
> everything, yet possibility is unlimited so on the whole, because all
> is possible, changes nothing but our viewpoint and the experience
> manifest as a result of it.
>
Well, I would put certain limits on what is possible, but the
possibilities are so many that they tend to seem inordinately large.
> This link to Richard Feynman's "fun to imagine" may or may not be
> relevant.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrk3GbJU0k0
>
I'd love to be able to view it, but, where I work, they've cut us
off from youtube. I'll have to find a friend or an Internet Cafe, as
I have no access to the Internet (or land line phone) at home.
> On Oct 26, 2:06 pm, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 23 Oct, 17:57, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I have often wondered what the new testament of the bible would be like
> > > if
> > > you removed the parts that are in reality are made up short stories used
> > > to
> > > sell a bill of goods. An example(s) being the nativity stories, the
> > > resurrection (misunderstood,) the writings of Saul Of Tarsus the book
> > > of
> > > revelations. to name a few
>
> > > I wonder if a book (it would probably be very short) getting rid of the
> > > exact interpretation but rather trying to expressed express the ideas that
> > > Jesus the man best wanted to express. I look at our group and the
> > > atheists
> > > and agnostics have a very valuable role in working out that validity of
> > > what
> > > is being said. There is a definite need to counter balance my own beliefs
> > > and those of other fanatics.
>
> > > To tell the truth this would be a total dream for me. There is an event
> > > astronomically that can be dated like a total solar eclipse over Jerusalem
> > > in 33 CE. I do know that there are religious fanatics in the Philippines
> > > that are crucified (literally) and they regularly survive it. I think
> > > these
> > > things need to be taken into account, from what I understand it actually
> > > takes several days to die that way.
>
> > > Here I have to admit I am jealous of the sheer enlightenment of spiritual
> > > knowledge Francis and other members of this group possess. I am hoping
> > > they
> > > will take to this idea.
> > > Allan
>
> > > (
> > > )
> > > I_D Allan
>
> > Luckily, the summary is still in the text:
> > 1) Love God with all your heart, mind and being
> > and
> > 2) Love your neighbour AS yourself.
>
> > 'AS', in that usage means 'no different than' rather than 'like'.
> > This is the summation, too, of the Torah, as expounded by Hillel. In
> > fact, Hillel went so far as to state: 'all the rest is commentary'.
>
> > I'd like to hear, though, your 'explanation' of the resurrection,
> > because I just (within the past few days) ran across a possibility (in
> > the realms of "consciousness space" and mathematical functions applied
> > across it via Set Theory) that could, in fact, alter the past. Which,
> > if true for one individual (Jesus, in this case), could undo that
> > which is supposedly fixed in the past (i.e., his death and what led up
> > TO it). I need to develop it a bit more, but, if I had to encapsulate
> > it for you into one word, that word would be 'forgiveness'.
> > Forgiveness changes consciousness by disregarding thoughts...forever.
> > And the Standard Model has always posited that forces should extend in
> > all directions (equal and OPPOSITE reactions!!), so an attitude about
> > X, which is removed from consciousness via forgiveness, could well be
> > the physical/mathematical process that alters the past as much as it
> > can the future. I'll let you all think about THAT one for a
> > while... ;-)- Hide quoted text -
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