Actually I think this is all part of growing in spirituality a totally different realm of space and time your dual existence I love listening to your thoughts and insights Molly Allan
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > I've noticed details of the past that change as my state and stage of > consciousness changes. I am not sure that we were meant to notice, > as our viewpoint constructs the experience with such wonderful design > detail, the possibility is a perfect fit, and so granular, the change > is usually imperceptible because our new state accommodates. I do not > know why I was privileged to notice, something along the lines of the > privilege of clairvoyance - we don't ask why but are grateful for the > insight. I can see how forgiveness would fit into this model, as > unconditional forgiveness, like unconditional love, is a big leap of > consciousness, and can be from dual to non dual. This changes > everything, yet possibility is unlimited so on the whole, because all > is possible, changes nothing but our viewpoint and the experience > manifest as a result of it. > > This link to Richard Feynman's "fun to imagine" may or may not be > relevant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrk3GbJU0k0 > > On Oct 26, 2:06 pm, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 23 Oct, 17:57, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have often wondered what the new testament of the bible would be > like if > > > you removed the parts that are in reality are made up short stories > used to > > > sell a bill of goods. An example(s) being the nativity stories, the > > > resurrection (misunderstood,) the writings of Saul Of Tarsus the > book of > > > revelations. to name a few > > > > > I wonder if a book (it would probably be very short) getting rid of the > > > exact interpretation but rather trying to expressed express the ideas > that > > > Jesus the man best wanted to express. I look at our group and the > atheists > > > and agnostics have a very valuable role in working out that validity of > what > > > is being said. There is a definite need to counter balance my own > beliefs > > > and those of other fanatics. > > > > > To tell the truth this would be a total dream for me. There is an event > > > astronomically that can be dated like a total solar eclipse over > Jerusalem > > > in 33 CE. I do know that there are religious fanatics in the > Philippines > > > that are crucified (literally) and they regularly survive it. I think > these > > > things need to be taken into account, from what I understand it > actually > > > takes several days to die that way. > > > > > Here I have to admit I am jealous of the sheer enlightenment of > spiritual > > > knowledge Francis and other members of this group possess. I am hoping > they > > > will take to this idea. > > > Allan > > > > > ( > > > ) > > > I_D Allan > > > > Luckily, the summary is still in the text: > > 1) Love God with all your heart, mind and being > > and > > 2) Love your neighbour AS yourself. > > > > 'AS', in that usage means 'no different than' rather than 'like'. > > This is the summation, too, of the Torah, as expounded by Hillel. In > > fact, Hillel went so far as to state: 'all the rest is commentary'. > > > > I'd like to hear, though, your 'explanation' of the resurrection, > > because I just (within the past few days) ran across a possibility (in > > the realms of "consciousness space" and mathematical functions applied > > across it via Set Theory) that could, in fact, alter the past. Which, > > if true for one individual (Jesus, in this case), could undo that > > which is supposedly fixed in the past (i.e., his death and what led up > > TO it). I need to develop it a bit more, but, if I had to encapsulate > > it for you into one word, that word would be 'forgiveness'. > > Forgiveness changes consciousness by disregarding thoughts...forever. > > And the Standard Model has always posited that forces should extend in > > all directions (equal and OPPOSITE reactions!!), so an attitude about > > X, which is removed from consciousness via forgiveness, could well be > > the physical/mathematical process that alters the past as much as it > > can the future. I'll let you all think about THAT one for a > > while... ;-) > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
