http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6916648.ece
On 14 Nov., 19:10, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > Ah, e, let me introduce you to Pat. Pat, e, e, Pat. No free will. > Common ground. > > On Nov 14, 12:25 pm, e <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Don I am sorry if that is what you came away with from my post. It was > > not a wholesale I don’t give a fuck about everything, it was I don’t > > give a fuck about what is happening to ME that precipitated the event. > > You see I was taking everything personally, the pain in the legs was > > MY pain. When I quit owning it, it disappeared. And since there was no > > longer anything to fight against, I disappeared too. Which did not > > mean there was no care taken, the teeth were brushed the clothes put > > away before sleep, etc. etc. It was all done impersonally. Now that is > > the way it always gets done but thought says “I did that”. It is like > > Krishnamurti was saying in the other thread, personal experience > > (reacting personally to pleasant or unpleasant sensations) has > > nothing to do with impersonal truth. > > > So neurophenomenologically there is a world/body border that is > > created by the sensate. It feels like we exist inside the body. Then > > thought models what is “outside” of that border. When the sensate > > which creates an opaque shell becomes translucent, inside and outside > > (one of the fundamental dualities people believe in) lose all meaning > > and disappear. Without that duality, all the models that are > > constructed by thought based on that duality lose their credibility as > > well. So at that point there is freedom (from choice) but no will as > > there is no self inside to choose to do something outside. > > > Re: the pretzel thing. It is according to custom to sit cross legged. > > It is a very stable position that once you get accustomed too, you can > > sit easily for extended periods of time. You can do it sitting in a > > chair but it winds up being harder on the body in the long run. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
