On 2 Dec, 16:57, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Muslims will be conquered by the Chinese, perhaps. The only other
> solution is to level their countries like we did Germany and Japan-
> who, at least, were industrialized. The only thing Islam has going for
> it are oil deposits in various countries. But we have water.
>
"The only thing Islam has going for it are oil deposits in various
countries."
I take it, from that, that you have never read the Qur'an. The
main gist of it (Islam/the Qur'an) is that mankind should not oppress
one another and that we should care for the orphans and elderly and
the poor and treat all individuals with respect. Much of the
remainder is outlining examples of previous peoples who did NOT act
that way and reminding the reader of how those peoples were
destroyed. Also, there's a fair amount of instructions on how to
maintain women's rights to inheritance and their right to be heard--
things that, in the West, women didn't get until the latter part of
the 19th Century/early 20th century. I.e., the Qur'an was, with
respect to women's rights, some 1300 years ahead of its time.
The problems come in when Western society demands its right to be
intoxicated and irascible to the point of outright destructive
behaviour afterwards and the duty to oppress one another through usury
and other ways (in the name of 'Survival of the Fittest', a euphemism
for maintaining that animal instincts are the way forward!!) and
Muslims don't understand why Western, supposedly civilised people,
demand the right to act like idiots, screw up the environment and take
as much as is possible from those who have the least. Muslims don't
view that as civilised behaviour.
With respect to the oil, it won't always be there, as the West is
using it up and fouling the Earth with its waste products. After the
oil is gone, what Islam will be left with is what they have had for
1400+ years...the moral high ground.
> On Dec 2, 10:45 am, fran the man <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > In a referendum last Sunday, 57.5% of the Swiss voted to ban minarets.
>
> > As right-wing populists cheered and liberal multi-culturalists were
> > shocked, the Swiss decision reflects a deep problem for western
> > democracies, particularly in Europe. How do you integrate a religious
> > culture into a pluralist society, which has mutual tolerance as one of
> > its basic principles, when significant groups in that culture reject
> > many principles of that society which is trying to integrate them? Is
> > this a signal that the meeting between western societies and Islam
> > leads to irreconcilable differences? Or is the Swiss vote basically,
> > or partly, an expression of deep-seated racism and subjective views of
> > cultural superiority?
>
> > Some background:
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> >http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,664231,00.html
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> > Francis- Hide quoted text -
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