Yep, this seems peaceful and cooperative: http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/134080
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > I see. Glad that's all cleared up. I'll just get a gun and head for > the closest mall now. > > I haven't read the Koran. I did stand watch with a Muslim for about 3 > years though. Learned a lot. Ate a lot of his wife's tasty food. > Found out I really like curry. What stood out with Abdul is his > complete devotion to Allah. He'd stop everything and pray and the > phone wouldn't get answered, alarms wouldn't get checked out and I > think time stopped for him for about 4 or 5 minutes. > > I found out revenge(according to him) was part of Islam. This from a > guy that read from the book every single day. He spend a great deal > of time working to ruin our bosses life because he was angry about > being embarrassed by a public comment our boss had made on Abdul's > lack of commitment to the job that made everyone in the room laugh. > > Abdul's opinions on the 'rights' of women were quite different then > what is normal here in the States. Arranged marraige, of course, for > starters. He was 24 years older then her. She walked behind him, > didn't speak in public, wore the burka, yadda yadda yadda. Real > progressive. Not. > > That said, I don't think Abdul was capable of murder. This was way > before 9/11 so I don't know for sure how he would have reacted but I > have a clue. I was working with him when the Towers were bombed and > he expressed glee. No kidding excitement and pleasure. He must have > been ecstatic when the planes hit on 9/11. > > And, of course, I'll NEVER forget the footage of Palestinians > celebrating in the streets on that day. Truly disgusting. > > I wonder, given your views expressed here Pat; what do you think of > when you think of 9/11? Sorrow or Celebration? Enquiring minds want > to know. I want to know. > > -Don > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 40 AM, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On 2 Dec, 16:57, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Muslims will be conquered by the Chinese, perhaps. The only other > >> solution is to level their countries like we did Germany and Japan- > >> who, at least, were industrialized. The only thing Islam has going for > >> it are oil deposits in various countries. But we have water. > >> > > > > "The only thing Islam has going for it are oil deposits in various > > countries." > > > > I take it, from that, that you have never read the Qur'an. The > > main gist of it (Islam/the Qur'an) is that mankind should not oppress > > one another and that we should care for the orphans and elderly and > > the poor and treat all individuals with respect. Much of the > > remainder is outlining examples of previous peoples who did NOT act > > that way and reminding the reader of how those peoples were > > destroyed. Also, there's a fair amount of instructions on how to > > maintain women's rights to inheritance and their right to be heard-- > > things that, in the West, women didn't get until the latter part of > > the 19th Century/early 20th century. I.e., the Qur'an was, with > > respect to women's rights, some 1300 years ahead of its time. > > The problems come in when Western society demands its right to be > > intoxicated and irascible to the point of outright destructive > > behaviour afterwards and the duty to oppress one another through usury > > and other ways (in the name of 'Survival of the Fittest', a euphemism > > for maintaining that animal instincts are the way forward!!) and > > Muslims don't understand why Western, supposedly civilised people, > > demand the right to act like idiots, screw up the environment and take > > as much as is possible from those who have the least. Muslims don't > > view that as civilised behaviour. > > With respect to the oil, it won't always be there, as the West is > > using it up and fouling the Earth with its waste products. After the > > oil is gone, what Islam will be left with is what they have had for > > 1400+ years...the moral high ground. > > > >> On Dec 2, 10:45 am, fran the man <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > In a referendum last Sunday, 57.5% of the Swiss voted to ban minarets. > >> > >> > As right-wing populists cheered and liberal multi-culturalists were > >> > shocked, the Swiss decision reflects a deep problem for western > >> > democracies, particularly in Europe. How do you integrate a religious > >> > culture into a pluralist society, which has mutual tolerance as one of > >> > its basic principles, when significant groups in that culture reject > >> > many principles of that society which is trying to integrate them? Is > >> > this a signal that the meeting between western societies and Islam > >> > leads to irreconcilable differences? Or is the Swiss vote basically, > >> > or partly, an expression of deep-seated racism and subjective views of > >> > cultural superiority? > >> > >> > Some background: > >> > >> >http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,664231,00.html > >> > >> > Francis- Hide quoted text - > >> > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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