Good to know you are being tested by child-rearing Ian - god becomes a
necessity when they are two!  You'll crack mate, and by then Francis,
Chris and myself will have established a new sect, worshiping the
Absolute we have trapped in a Bose-Einstein Condensate kept in a
safety-deposit box offshore-underground by the lake on Europa.  You'll
look good in the novice robes (virulent green spun-hemp and a by-
product of our peace incense).  Stoning will be a popular matter in
the new religion, surpassing even the joys of chucking rocks at women
who refuse to marry adherents of traditional faiths.  The only
tradition we will maintain is the tithe, through which we will return
10% of all the world's money to those work really work for it, a
substantial improvement on the current arrangements of the Lord's High
Bwankers.  We aren't going to bother with a theology, but are
considering approaching Molly, Orn and Pat to lead our Guidance for
the Perplexed Section, currently construed as a week in a room with
them, followed by a one-liner from Gabby at the door out.  In trials,
no one has yet return for a second 'deperplexion' or to get their
money back, so we seem to have bottomed that one.  We will accommodate
your empiricism, and this will be evidenced by the arrival of large
gentlemen on paydays who appear to be chewing cotton-wool.

On 20 Jan, 19:19, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2010/1/20 Pat <[email protected]>
>
>
>
> > Not in the Qur'an it's not.
>
> Pat,
>
> In the Qu'ran, Eeman and Kufr are a matter of free will for humanity. On
> that principle, I believe almost all denominations of Muslims *do* agree
> (and I can think of nothing more important, personally). I can only assume
> you're aligning yourself with extremist sects like Al-Jabariyah, who deny
> there is any free agency for mankind at all. That's probably does suit your
> agenda, so I can see why you're drawn to it. It's hardly objective, though;
> more like pick 'n mix theology or, from some perspectives, free-wheeling
> apostasy.
>
> > And, besides, the 'appearance' of free
> > will DOES exist.
>
> Is anyone else troubled by the idea of a prankster God? :)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qmglGWMsdk
>
> Ian
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