On 20 Jan, 19:19, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote: > 2010/1/20 Pat <[email protected]> > > > > > Not in the Qur'an it's not. > > Pat, > > In the Qu'ran, Eeman and Kufr are a matter of free will for humanity. On > that principle, I believe almost all denominations of Muslims *do* agree > (and I can think of nothing more important, personally). I can only assume > you're aligning yourself with extremist sects like Al-Jabariyah, who deny > there is any free agency for mankind at all. That's probably does suit your > agenda, so I can see why you're drawn to it. It's hardly objective, though; > more like pick 'n mix theology or, from some perspectives, free-wheeling > apostasy. >
Interesting that you 'pick' two items, demonstrate an incomplete understanding OF them, and THEN accuse me of pick-n-mix theology. It seems to me that you've demonstrated, rather clearly, that you employ pick-n-mix without understanding OR context. Then, you have the audacity to labele me with extremists, when what I've done is looked at it ALL, put it ALL together and come up with something with which you disagree. Then, to make an allegation that I'm an apostate, is, from a standpoint of an educated individual, an EXTREME position and one that you could never back up. My agenda is the truth and the dispensation OF that. If you view the upsetting of a few people with the truth as something bad, then what, exactly, is your agenda? > > And, besides, the 'appearance' of free > > will DOES exist. > > Is anyone else troubled by the idea of a prankster God? :) > God would only 'seem' to be a prankster by someone who refuses to accept the position that God is omniscient, which is something that we simply aren't. If we knew the entirety of the truth, then we wouldn't be so bold as to suggest such a thing. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qmglGWMsdk > > Ian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
