On 28 Jan, 15:45, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
> nice somersaulting around logic. Here's Your disconnect: You need
> faith to believe IN something for which their is no proof. To not
> believe is simply that, not believing until proof is furnished. Just
> as theists have a problem with understanding what words like dogma,
> evidence, theory of____, and believe mean and how to use them, you are
> misusing the term faith in the same manner.
>

And you have faith in that.  Heck, I don't mind being accused of
having faith.  According to Pascal's wager, it's far safer; so I could
only say, good luck to you.  And I really do mean that!!

> On Jan 28, 5:46 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 28 Jan, 12:55, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On 28 January 2010 12:30, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > So, it boils down to the fact that you have faith that there is no
> > > > 'soul'.  Okey doke, I can accept that.
>
> > > Got a name for that straw man, Pat? :)
>
> > > I don't want to make a tyrant of logic here, but if someone claims the
> > > existence of non-material soul then evidence for that claim must be
> > > supplied. Russell, teapot, etc.
>
> > > Ian
>
> > And I asked you on what basis you derived your belief that ther eis no
> > soul.  It boiled down to your faith rather than any evidence.  There
> > is no Russell's Teapot!  Besides, my definition of a soul is a 'field
> > of energy' and if you refute fields of energy, well...  Yes, I know
> > that particular one hasn't been empirically proven...yet, but that
> > does not mean that it does not exist; rather, it only means it hasn't
> > been discovered yet.  If you recall, there was a time when Uranus and
> > Neptune hadn't been discovered; did they only pop into existence when
> > the telescope landed there?  And the whole Russell's Teapot thing is
> > so naff I'm surprised anyone falls for that logic.  As I've said
> > before many times, just because you have not detected something is not
> > evidence that it does not exist.- Hide quoted text -
>
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