On 29 Jan, 14:11, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:
> Let's be clear, an empirical position -- say on the Earth orbiting the sun
> -- does not require "faith" in the religious sense of the word. Or not any
> longer.


That was my point...not any longer.  The same goes for
falsifiability.  There comes a time when technology catches up and
things that once required faith can become falsifiable.  But only when
that happens can we state with surety that the 'thing' was ALWAYS
falsifiable.

>There's a reasonable amount of "faith" required for anything, but
> this operates in degrees and a few people in this thread are trying pull it
> into the realm of the absurd.
>
> I can see why people like Pat and Lee are hoping that a position of
> "everything requires faith" is accepted; such proposition would seem to put
> God and science on similarly valid intellectual footings. In other words, by
> weakening science, theism is strengthened. Such a position won't be accepted
> though, since it demands that we also accept that the level of faith
> required for the two is in anyway comparable. It isn't.
>
> Ian

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