nice somersaulting around logic. Here's Your disconnect: You need
faith to believe IN something for which their is no proof. To not
believe is simply that, not believing until proof is furnished. Just
as theists have a problem with understanding what words like dogma,
evidence, theory of____, and believe mean and how to use them, you are
misusing the term faith in the same manner.

On Jan 28, 5:46 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 28 Jan, 12:55, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 28 January 2010 12:30, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > So, it boils down to the fact that you have faith that there is no
> > > 'soul'.  Okey doke, I can accept that.
>
> > Got a name for that straw man, Pat? :)
>
> > I don't want to make a tyrant of logic here, but if someone claims the
> > existence of non-material soul then evidence for that claim must be
> > supplied. Russell, teapot, etc.
>
> > Ian
>
> And I asked you on what basis you derived your belief that ther eis no
> soul.  It boiled down to your faith rather than any evidence.  There
> is no Russell's Teapot!  Besides, my definition of a soul is a 'field
> of energy' and if you refute fields of energy, well...  Yes, I know
> that particular one hasn't been empirically proven...yet, but that
> does not mean that it does not exist; rather, it only means it hasn't
> been discovered yet.  If you recall, there was a time when Uranus and
> Neptune hadn't been discovered; did they only pop into existence when
> the telescope landed there?  And the whole Russell's Teapot thing is
> so naff I'm surprised anyone falls for that logic.  As I've said
> before many times, just because you have not detected something is not
> evidence that it does not exist.

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