Do as thou wilt fid…fanaticism = fanaticism, no matter how far in the cheek the tongue is inserted! ;-)
On Feb 6, 7:01 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > So I should stop trying to convert you to worshipping his great > noodliness, the FSM? > > On Feb 6, 5:57 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > “…During the last two and a half years I have been here, I know of > > only > > 3 or 4 who've actually been banned. And that, after a long, long > > rope ... we'd be hard put to recall an instance that was blatant. “ – > > Vam > > > In the spirit of full disclosure, a couple of weeks ago I banned (and > > blocked) a group member who, after a few warnings, continued to spam > > my personal email account with religious dogma and attitude. > > > When it comes to being blatant, even though it wasn’t posted here, on > > a different occasion I was called “a complete jackass” backchannel by > > a group member and didn’t ban them. Talk about a long rope!...and > > blatant ad hominem! (Don’t try this, you may not be so lucky!) > > > On Feb 6, 1:54 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > " You have value here and it shouldn't be that difficult to remain > > > civil." > > > > Don, your post offers the opportunity to clarify. ALL members who > > > stick around have value here, as is evident in the welcome he or she > > > receives from others, for the ideas and additions contributed. > > > Apparently, remaining civil is logically impossible if I am convinced > > > I have value but others do not have. Equally, it is extremely > > > difficult to remain civil if the value I have is not appreciated or > > > acknowledged by others ... much like the supplier or manufacturer who > > > insists his goods or services is of value while the buyer sees it > > > differently ! > > > > " It's a sign of maturity to be able to ignore insults whether they > > > are real or just perceived." > > > > Most people are able to, rather easily, invest in improving their IQ. > > > The maturity you speak of rests on high EQ, a tall order in > > > comparison ! > > > > " If you get in a tit for tat you will lose because you're the new > > > guy." > > > > During the last two and a half years I have been here, I know of only > > > 3 or 4 who've actually been banned. And that, after a long, long > > > rope ... > > > > " It doesn't have to be fair it's just the way things are." > > > > One could say that in respect of life or the world, or business. ME > > > might not have the bureaucracy ( resources ) to ensure fairness all > > > the time but, again, we'd be hard put to recall an instance that was > > > blatant. > > > > I believe it is all about the ability to visualise or register what > > > others are hearing from what we say. > > > > On Feb 7, 12:59 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Dude. It's not hate but it IS disrespectful in the extreme. If you > > > > can't be subtle about it cut it out. Ignore insults and attack the > > > > idea. Use words like "in my opinion" or "seems ridiculous to me." > > > > This tells us how you feel about someone's ideas in a less > > > > confrontational way. I understand what you are talking about but if > > > > you continue to act injured without altering or even trying to alter > > > > your tone you'll just get tossed out. You have value here and it > > > > shouldn't be that difficult to remain civil. It's a sign of maturity > > > > to be able to ignore insults whether they are real or just perceived. > > > > If you get in a tit for tat you will lose because you're the new guy. > > > > It doesn't have to be fair it's just the way things are. > > > > > dj > > > > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 12:55 PM, fiddler <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > gonna keep deleting my responses? You are a hateful, hate-filled > > > > > person that doesn't know what you are talking about. Is that better > > > > > and less ad hom? > > > > > > On Feb 6, 10:38 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> The guidelines keep us making statements about peoples concepts and > > > > >> ideas as they have made them specifically, not our general > > > > >> interpretation of them. For example, if I took your statement: > > > > >> "Empathy is always difficult and often unnecessary when the person > > > > >> need > > > > >> only quit reacting emotionally to everything and think honestly about > > > > >> themselves." > > > > > >> and said, "are you too stupid to feel empathy?" it would be an ad hom > > > > > >> but if I said, empathy requires us to feel emotion, and if you are > > > > >> choosing not to feel emotion, you may be choosing not to be > > > > >> empathetic." it would be a challenge to your statement. > > > > > >> if I said, "your stupid statement about empathy just goes to show > > > > >> that > > > > >> you have no feeling" guess what? ad hom > > > > > >> are you getting the idea? personal attacks that demean the person > > > > >> are > > > > >> not allowed. You cannot get around this by attacking the moderators. > > > > > >> On Feb 6, 12:19 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> > No question about the ad hom there, fid. Personal attacks are not > > > > >> > tolerated here, and you tell folks here you have been told this > > > > >> > several times, so I would ask your own question of you, why do you > > > > >> > continue? I will let Allan answer for himself, but I believe he is > > > > >> > addressing the fact that you make oppositional statements about > > > > >> > people > > > > >> > rather than their ideas, and this can be construed as hate. It is > > > > >> > also not allowed within the guidelines. Your comments about the > > > > >> > quality of moderation, are again, ad hom, and not tolerated. I've > > > > >> > watched about every group member here try to reach an understanding > > > > >> > with you on this, and still you make statements like "are you > > > > >> > really > > > > >> > this stupid" knowing it is ad hom. Are you purposefully > > > > >> > disregarding > > > > >> > the guidelines or don't you understand them? > > > > > >> > On Feb 6, 12:03 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> > > Are you really this stupid or are you just playing it for a > > > > >> > > crowd? I > > > > >> > > don't hate you, believers, or anything. Quit projecting, even if > > > > >> > > you > > > > >> > > do have a mod for a fan. > > > > > >> > > On Feb 6, 2:30 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > Fid the point is is people see thing differently than you do. > > > > >> > > > You give > > > > >> > > > medical diagnosis when some of north America's leading > > > > >> > > > psychiatrist give no > > > > >> > > > diagnosis what so ever. No it was not in their offices but > > > > >> > > > rather out > > > > >> > > > sailing one cruises lasting several days. Regardless of your > > > > >> > > > personal > > > > >> > > > hatred of beliefs of others, these incidents though rare and > > > > >> > > > not uncommon > > > > >> > > > and provide insite into beliefs systems. > > > > >> > > > You do not learn by closing your mind with hatred because > > > > >> > > > someone see things > > > > >> > > > differently an example of your style to rebuttal has occurred > > > > >> > > > several times > > > > >> > > > before one of which was the time the called the world flat. > > > > >> > > > You fid are one > > > > >> > > > of the people calling the world flat? > > > > >> > > > Allan > > > > > >> > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 5:35 PM, fiddler > > > > >> > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > I don't care about slamming you, although it wouldn't be > > > > >> > > > > difficult if > > > > >> > > > > I wanted to. I simply use the information that you provided. > > > > >> > > > > You admit > > > > >> > > > > delusions both auditory and visual: schizophrenia. You enjoy > > > > >> > > > > them and > > > > >> > > > > have elevated them to divine: reluctance to medicate. Yes, > > > > >> > > > > that is an > > > > >> > > > > old adage. > > > > > >> > > > > On Feb 4, 11:02 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > Interesting Fid, > > > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:43 AM, fiddler > > > > >> > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > You see what you choose to see. If you knew how little > > > > >> > > > > > > emotion I have > > > > >> > > > > > > invested in random strangers in online chat groups... I > > > > >> > > > > > > have even less > > > > >> > > > > > > invested in unmedicated schizophrenics. > > > > > >> > > > > > So your argument is that if you can not slam them you call > > > > >> > > > > > the person an > > > > >> > > > > > unmedicated schizophrenic that is very kind of you to give > > > > >> > > > > > me your > > > > >> > > > > medical > > > > >> > > > > > diagnosis.. I think I will stick with my friends that are > > > > >> > > > > > actually > > > > >> > > > > doctors > > > > >> > > > > > and psychiatrist. I am not a doctor and can not give a > > > > >> > > > > > diagnosis but > > > > >> > > > > there > > > > >> > > > > > is an old adage what we see in others is exactly what we > > > > >> > > > > > see in our > > > > >> > > > > selves. > > > > >> > > > > > Allan > > > > > >> > > > > > On Feb 3, 11:27 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> > > > > >> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > I understand Orn when I read what fid is writing I do > > > > >> > > > > > > not see an > > > > >> > > > > exchange > > > > >> > > > > > > of ideas but what appears to be a foaming hate filled > > > > >> > > > > > > being. If he is > > > > >> > > > > > going > > > > >> > > > > > > to university with an attitude like that it would be a > > > > >> > > > > > > wonder if he > > > > >> > > > > could > > > > >> > > > > > > get through even a single class. > > > > >> > > > > > > Allan > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:32 AM, ornamentalmind < > > > > >> > > > > > > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Truth be told...I cut fid a lot of slack. He's going > > > > >> > > > > > > > > to university, > > > > >> > > > > > > > > studying a lot of stuff, interacting on numerous > > > > >> > > > > > > > > online groups....I > > > > >> > > > > > > > > know that more than once I hurried through posts > > > > >> > > > > > > > > missing the > > > > >> > > > > intent. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Oh, and I also remember when I knew a lot of stuff > > > > >> > > > > > > > > and knew others > > > > >> > > > > > > > > didnt...and attempted to put interaction and > > > > >> > > > > > > > > discussion into a > > > > >> > > > > > > > > box...with tenets and rules and all of that...which > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I'd attempt to > > > > >> > > > > > > > > impose on everyone else. Doing such things surely > > > > >> > > > > > > > > make the universe > > > > >> > > > > a > > > > >> > > > > > > > > more 'friendly', if not understood, place. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2:12 pm, iam deheretic > > > > >> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Fid you are dealing with a bunch of old people here > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
