On 10 Feb, 02:14, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Prescribed "Destiny" cannot be possible because I can choose tomorrow
> to stay in bed everyday until my destiny is forced upon me.  Choice is
> not destiny.  Please don't try to tell me that then my destiny will be
> to remain in bed everyday 24/7 because that is not going to fly.
>

All I'll say is "what ever you do is what is in the space-time
continuum".  And, as the space-time continuum contains all of space
and time, those events have ALWAYS been there and will ALWAYS remain
there.  'What you imagine your choices are' are just spatio-temporal
events that exist in the continuum.

> The real issue with world hunger/poverty is that it "IS" curable.
> There are simple solutions to world hunger/poverty but humanity is
> just not doing anything about it.  There are simple solutions to
> homelessness but humanity is not doing anything about it.
>

Yup.  Agreed.  Sad, though, isn't it?

> What humanity "IS" doing is foreclosing on homes and farms, paying
> farmers not to grow crops as a means of controlling stock figures and
> numerous other blockage devices designed to encourage quagmires.
>
> What humanity "IS" doing is setting up systems of government and
> financial institutions that create "Mega Wealth" and "Wars" to gain
> wealth and it "IS" being accomplished without any problem.
> Mega wealth>No Problem  War>No Problem  Hunger>Problem
> Homelessness>Problem  Poverty>Problem
>
> Then you have the sheep that are freezing in the cold while their wool
> is constantly being fleeced.  They don't understand why they are
> always in the cold when they have so much wool.   They look and see
> the fleecers living warm and cozy with their wool and see piles of
> wool not being used but sold to other fleecers.  The sheep get tired
> of being cold so they start to get back their wool but the prices are
> really high and some sheep can't afford to buy any, so they must
> remain cold, some are so cold that they freeze to death.  Some of the
> sheep protest but many of them are jailed, assassinated and turned
> into mutton soup.
> One of the sheep named Shep tells the other sheep that the reason they
> are cold is because they were born as bad sheep and must pray to
> BahBah the great sheep deity.  Shep teaches the sheep how to pray and
> tells the sheep they need to keep him warm so that he can keep
> teaching them about BahBah.  The sheep gather whatever wool they can
> glean from the fields and barns and keep Shep warm.  Thousands of
> years go by and many sheep replace Shep and the sheep continue to
> support the huge organization that Shep built, but the sheep are still
> cold and giving all their wool to the fleecers and the Shep while
> waiting for BahBah to deliver them to freedom.  Nothing ever happens
> but the sheep are told not to worry because as long as they keep
> praying and giving wool to the Shep they will have everlasting life in
> Sheep Heaven.
> Then there is Wolfy, Shep's friend, he sees how Shep has created an
> empire and so starts telling the wolves that the reason they are
> hungry is because they were born as bad wolves and must pray to Wol
> the wolf deity.  The wolves did not have anything to give Wolfy so
> besides praying they began to"Prey" on the sheep so they could keep
> Wolfy well fed in order to keep teaching them how to pray.
> Well the story goes on until hundreds of other Shep's and Wolfy's
> began to spring up but.......The sheep are still Cold.
>

In other words, people aren't practicing their religions 'correctly'.
Nothing new there either.

> On Feb 9, 7:02 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 9 Feb, 08:31, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > But Pat, during the years a man is busy perusing through parts of
> > > books looking for relevancy many people could starve to death.  The
> > > man's years might be better spent cultivating land for harvest and
> > > tending to livestock to feed the hungry.
>
> > Every man has his destiny.  I have mine and you have yours.  If Jesus
> > couldn't solve world hunger, why do you think I could?  Bill Gates,
> > perhaps, has that ability.  I run on about 10 GBP per day.  I can
> > barely feed myself.  I'd fare much better at that if I didn't have to
> > pay 25% of my net to my ex for child support, but I will not forsake
> > my children.  That leaves me with very little money to help others.
> > If I write the book and it gets published and sells well, THEN I might
> > be in a position to help more people in a wider sense.  And, if I can,
> > I will.  But, I can't finish the book until all the research is done.
> > I'm still working towards an 'end of 2012' date for publication.
> > First things first, you know.  ;-)
>
> > > On Feb 8, 11:20 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On 8 Feb, 17:15, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Or perhaps people spending time and energy on irrelevant texts about
> > > > > tribal godlings rather than helping the starving people around them?
>
> > > > Well, yes.  I've always said that if all we did was prostrate
> > > > ourselves to God, we would be about as useful as rocks.  But that
> > > > isn't all we do.  A balance is required.  Plus, there's the time it
> > > > takes to see which parts of which books are, truly, irrelevant and
> > > > which are vitally relevant.  That could keep a man busy for years.
> > > > Trust me.  ;-)
>
> > > > > On Feb 8, 5:49 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 3 Feb, 04:44, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > A starving man steals a purse, knocking the woman to the ground 
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > breaking her leg. Evil? Might he have not stolen a purse without
> > > > > > > physical action? Couldn't his frustration be the cause of 
> > > > > > > unnecessary
> > > > > > > violence? and is frustration then evil?
>
> > > > > >   As soon as I read the second word, the problem was revealed.  The
> > > > > > society that allowed the person to become starving is the truest 
> > > > > > evil
> > > > > > in your example.  All the rest could have been avoided by a society
> > > > > > that cared.  Perhaps, then, societal carelessness is the greatest 
> > > > > > evil
> > > > > > we face in today's world.
>
> > > > > > > On Feb 2, 4:13 pm, MajorOz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 6:26 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > What is the greatest evil?
>
> > > > > > > > > I wanted to use the word sin, but I want to get away from any
> > > > > > > > > religiousness in this one.
>
> > > > > > > > > So what is the greatest evil, and why?
>
> > > > > > > > For me, there is only one evil: unnecessarily harming someone.  
> > > > > > > > I view
> > > > > > > > all OTHER so-called evils simply as disturbance of someone's
> > > > > > > > prejudice.
>
> > > > > > > > cheers
>
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