All I'll say is "what ever you do is what is in the space-time continuum". And, as the space-time continuum contains all of space and time, those events have ALWAYS been there and will ALWAYS remain there. 'What you imagine your choices are' are just spatio-temporal events that exist in the continuum. >Pat
Really Pat, the Space-time Continuum has hardly been portrayed by the scientific community as containing all elements of time, that essentially and for this instance, being a containment of events past and future within the time portal. The non-spatial aspect of the time dimension alone requires alternate mathematical equation, separate and independent, in order to even begin evaluating it as having the capability of containing incidents with 3d spatial qualities in some chronological sequence. The temporal dimension may indicate a "when" an occurrence may take place without defining the occurrence. But I do think that more inquiry should be directed towards whether the human mind, human imagination and human will is interdependent upon any sequence in the temporal dimension of the space-time continuum. Perhaps that is where distinction takes place, the departure of the sentient experience from that of ordinary events confined to the temporal dimension. This could be exemplified by the continuity of planetary systems and orbital sequences within the universe. We can calculate a solar eclipse or what time the sun will rise at any given global coordinate but cannot indicate any future event concerning the human experience ie; longevity and demise. So the attempt to establish a connection between human events based on theoretical speculations is at best speculative in and of itself. Now of course you should re-examine religious concepts that allow for huge "IFs" such as destinations to heavenly locales based upon moral behavioral choices when you are presenting "destiny" in the form of pre-destined human experiences contained in the space-time continuum. This is one of the main flaws in your presentation that leaves me doubtful. On Feb 10, 6:20 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On 10 Feb, 02:14, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Prescribed "Destiny" cannot be possible because I can choose tomorrow > > to stay in bed everyday until my destiny is forced upon me. Choice is > > not destiny. Please don't try to tell me that then my destiny will be > > to remain in bed everyday 24/7 because that is not going to fly. > > All I'll say is "what ever you do is what is in the space-time > continuum". And, as the space-time continuum contains all of space > and time, those events have ALWAYS been there and will ALWAYS remain > there. 'What you imagine your choices are' are just spatio-temporal > events that exist in the continuum. > > > The real issue with world hunger/poverty is that it "IS" curable. > > There are simple solutions to world hunger/poverty but humanity is > > just not doing anything about it. There are simple solutions to > > homelessness but humanity is not doing anything about it. > > Yup. Agreed. Sad, though, isn't it? > > > > > What humanity "IS" doing is foreclosing on homes and farms, paying > > farmers not to grow crops as a means of controlling stock figures and > > numerous other blockage devices designed to encourage quagmires. > > > What humanity "IS" doing is setting up systems of government and > > financial institutions that create "Mega Wealth" and "Wars" to gain > > wealth and it "IS" being accomplished without any problem. > > Mega wealth>No Problem War>No Problem Hunger>Problem > > Homelessness>Problem Poverty>Problem > > > Then you have the sheep that are freezing in the cold while their wool > > is constantly being fleeced. They don't understand why they are > > always in the cold when they have so much wool. They look and see > > the fleecers living warm and cozy with their wool and see piles of > > wool not being used but sold to other fleecers. The sheep get tired > > of being cold so they start to get back their wool but the prices are > > really high and some sheep can't afford to buy any, so they must > > remain cold, some are so cold that they freeze to death. Some of the > > sheep protest but many of them are jailed, assassinated and turned > > into mutton soup. > > One of the sheep named Shep tells the other sheep that the reason they > > are cold is because they were born as bad sheep and must pray to > > BahBah the great sheep deity. Shep teaches the sheep how to pray and > > tells the sheep they need to keep him warm so that he can keep > > teaching them about BahBah. The sheep gather whatever wool they can > > glean from the fields and barns and keep Shep warm. Thousands of > > years go by and many sheep replace Shep and the sheep continue to > > support the huge organization that Shep built, but the sheep are still > > cold and giving all their wool to the fleecers and the Shep while > > waiting for BahBah to deliver them to freedom. Nothing ever happens > > but the sheep are told not to worry because as long as they keep > > praying and giving wool to the Shep they will have everlasting life in > > Sheep Heaven. > > Then there is Wolfy, Shep's friend, he sees how Shep has created an > > empire and so starts telling the wolves that the reason they are > > hungry is because they were born as bad wolves and must pray to Wol > > the wolf deity. The wolves did not have anything to give Wolfy so > > besides praying they began to"Prey" on the sheep so they could keep > > Wolfy well fed in order to keep teaching them how to pray. > > Well the story goes on until hundreds of other Shep's and Wolfy's > > began to spring up but.......The sheep are still Cold. > > In other words, people aren't practicing their religions 'correctly'. > Nothing new there either. > > > On Feb 9, 7:02 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 9 Feb, 08:31, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > But Pat, during the years a man is busy perusing through parts of > > > > books looking for relevancy many people could starve to death. The > > > > man's years might be better spent cultivating land for harvest and > > > > tending to livestock to feed the hungry. > > > > Every man has his destiny. I have mine and you have yours. If Jesus > > > couldn't solve world hunger, why do you think I could? Bill Gates, > > > perhaps, has that ability. I run on about 10 GBP per day. I can > > > barely feed myself. I'd fare much better at that if I didn't have to > > > pay 25% of my net to my ex for child support, but I will not forsake > > > my children. That leaves me with very little money to help others. > > > If I write the book and it gets published and sells well, THEN I might > > > be in a position to help more people in a wider sense. And, if I can, > > > I will. But, I can't finish the book until all the research is done. > > > I'm still working towards an 'end of 2012' date for publication. > > > First things first, you know. ;-) > > > > > On Feb 8, 11:20 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On 8 Feb, 17:15, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Or perhaps people spending time and energy on irrelevant texts about > > > > > > tribal godlings rather than helping the starving people around them? > > > > > > Well, yes. I've always said that if all we did was prostrate > > > > > ourselves to God, we would be about as useful as rocks. But that > > > > > isn't all we do. A balance is required. Plus, there's the time it > > > > > takes to see which parts of which books are, truly, irrelevant and > > > > > which are vitally relevant. That could keep a man busy for years. > > > > > Trust me. ;-) > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 5:49 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 3 Feb, 04:44, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > A starving man steals a purse, knocking the woman to the ground > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > breaking her leg. Evil? Might he have not stolen a purse without > > > > > > > > physical action? Couldn't his frustration be the cause of > > > > > > > > unnecessary > > > > > > > > violence? and is frustration then evil? > > > > > > > > As soon as I read the second word, the problem was revealed. > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > society that allowed the person to become starving is the truest > > > > > > > evil > > > > > > > in your example. All the rest could have been avoided by a > > > > > > > society > > > > > > > that cared. Perhaps, then, societal carelessness is the greatest > > > > > > > evil > > > > > > > we face in today's world. > > > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 4:13 pm, MajorOz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 6:26 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > What is the greatest evil? > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to use the word sin, but I want to get away from > > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > religiousness in this one. > > > > > > > > > > > So what is the greatest evil, and why? > > > > > > > > > > For me, there is only one evil: unnecessarily harming > > > > > > > > > someone. I view > > > > > > > > > all OTHER so-called evils simply as disturbance of someone's > > > > > > > > > prejudice. > > > > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > > > oz, newbie- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
