Well that is the thing Molly, we have a vast history over here, but it
is history, those things that others before me achived or wrecked.  I
have no feelings for it what-so-ever.  I personaly had nothing to do
with the history of my country, thus I have no feelings about it.  It
was not me that achived great things and it was not me that performed
shamefull actions, so I have no emotional attachment to it at all.

On 11 Feb, 15:05, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
> Can you feel a sense of history, and all that your country, the people
> in it, and the land it is on has experienced, without feeling pride or
> shame?  For me, that connection beyond the identity value, knowing
> that I am a part of the whole, and the ethic of willingness to
> participate and contribute to the whole that naturally arises, is the
> true patriotism.
>
> On Feb 11, 8:44 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > We have, like most things, had a bash at this here before, but I still
> > have unresovled questions so here goes again.
>
> > I'm not really a patriot, it's not that I hate my country, I certianly
> > don't, but I don't really love it either.  I don't feel anything for
> > the land in which I have been blessed to be born.
>
> > I don't get patriotism, I simply don't understand how one can feel
> > pride in the achivments of ones country without also feeling the shame
> > for the shamefull things, and most patriots that I am aware of
> > certianly do not exhibit that they feel such shame, whilst the pride
> > of any patriot is almost overwhelming.  I don't undertand this.
>
> > What vaule or merit is there in patriotism?
>
> > In the interest of full disclosure though I must admit that as a
> > native Londoner, my heart does skip a beat everytime  hear a London
> > accent on the TV, or in a piece of music, yet I have come to quite
> > detest the city(perhaps this is just my age?).  I feel no pride in
> > being a Londoner, the footie team I support is a Northen english one,
> > yand I certianly can't explain this heart skipping thing at all.
>
> > What do you think?©- Hide quoted text -
>
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