The term Patriotism means different things to different people. This
is one part of the issue. Also, often it is touted as what one
*should* feel/think. In such situations, it is the friend of the
tyrant.

On Feb 11, 7:38 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't think that emotion is necessary to appreciation, so your all
> set!
>
> On Feb 11, 10:22 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Well that is the thing Molly, we have a vast history over here, but it
> > is history, those things that others before me achived or wrecked.  I
> > have no feelings for it what-so-ever.  I personaly had nothing to do
> > with the history of my country, thus I have no feelings about it.  It
> > was not me that achived great things and it was not me that performed
> > shamefull actions, so I have no emotional attachment to it at all.
>
> > On 11 Feb, 15:05, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Can you feel a sense of history, and all that your country, the people
> > > in it, and the land it is on has experienced, without feeling pride or
> > > shame?  For me, that connection beyond the identity value, knowing
> > > that I am a part of the whole, and the ethic of willingness to
> > > participate and contribute to the whole that naturally arises, is the
> > > true patriotism.
>
> > > On Feb 11, 8:44 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > We have, like most things, had a bash at this here before, but I still
> > > > have unresovled questions so here goes again.
>
> > > > I'm not really a patriot, it's not that I hate my country, I certianly
> > > > don't, but I don't really love it either.  I don't feel anything for
> > > > the land in which I have been blessed to be born.
>
> > > > I don't get patriotism, I simply don't understand how one can feel
> > > > pride in the achivments of ones country without also feeling the shame
> > > > for the shamefull things, and most patriots that I am aware of
> > > > certianly do not exhibit that they feel such shame, whilst the pride
> > > > of any patriot is almost overwhelming.  I don't undertand this.
>
> > > > What vaule or merit is there in patriotism?
>
> > > > In the interest of full disclosure though I must admit that as a
> > > > native Londoner, my heart does skip a beat everytime  hear a London
> > > > accent on the TV, or in a piece of music, yet I have come to quite
> > > > detest the city(perhaps this is just my age?).  I feel no pride in
> > > > being a Londoner, the footie team I support is a Northen english one,
> > > > yand I certianly can't explain this heart skipping thing at all.
>
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