On 7 Mar, 09:54, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > Hoi Molly now there is a question I have been pondering, > Confucius said years ago that to be in the presence of ones God is to be in > heaven. I also believe that the entirety of the universe is made from the > essence of God as I understand him. This makes me part of God but it does > not make me God. Because Everything is made from the essence of God this > connection creates a special bond between myself and God. This special > conection also applies to everything else, whether we want to admit to it or > not. It also creates a special bond between each other. a quote comes to > mind "Ask not for whom the bell tolls for it tolls for thee." > > Logic follows that because I am in the presence of my God as I understand > him. I must be in heaven. I also believe that when we die we return this > physical body to our creator (God) and go through a resurrection into a new > life. Now the catch comes, how we respond to our world (God) in this life > determines the quality of our life in the next life. and there will be no > hiding or denying our position. > > *Rejoice for the kingdom of God is with us today!!!* > Allan
Your position is very similar to mine, although what you call 'essence' I refer to as 'energy'. I do that for a very good reason, though. Science has no problem with energy as being 'neither created nor destroyed' yet it has a problem with a God that is defined in the same way. But, as you say, if one is made of the other, then the difference is terminological semantics. As for this "how we respond...determining the quality of our life in the next life", that is a very Islamic concept. If string theory is true, it allows for us, as physical bodies, to exist throughout these other non space-time dimensions and move through them as we move through those we sense. So, you're not far off there, either, although I wouldn't say that you are IN heaven, just that you pass through it (and hell) while you exist here, although at a level which is completely undetectable. The bond of which you speak, I refer to as "that we are an extension of the energy that is" and that that energy is God's, as there is nothing else. As for your last statement, how can you hide from that which is omnipresent and how can you hide your knowledge from God when it isn't your knowledge, but His, that you have? The fact that the space-time continum contains a permanent record of all that we have done is a clear enough record to refer to and it will last for all time...by definition. > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Mar 6, 12:06 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > "WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IS TRUE EVEN THOUGH YOU CANNOT PROVE IT?" > > > > Great minds can sometimes guess the truth before they have either the > > > evidence or arguments for it (Diderot called it having the "esprit de > > > divination"). What do you believe is true even though you cannot prove > > > it? > > > This clip is better! > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqViPnpVs54&feature=related > > > dj > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
