On 8 Mar, 20:42, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > Well pat one of the things I can not explain is what is beyond. . . > > > > > True. I agree. Consciousness, in my physics, doesn't exist, per se, > > in this 4-D universe, rather, the interface to it exists here. > > The concept of a 4--D universeis kind of strange because it fails to allow > you to be everywhere at the same time.. > > > > > > > , that is a very Islamic concept. > > > > It is not just Islamic and they did not originate it.. > > > well .. > > Again, true. And Muslims would be happy to agree with that. You have > > to go back to Abraham and, in truth, Noah and Adam, before all. It's > > a Judeo/Christian/Islamic concept, because it is described that way in > > those scriptures revealed by "The God of Abraham". > > from what i have read of the koran they will not like my assessment .. > there is to much man in it people trying to be important.. and expand what > is said originally > > > > > > > > > > > If string theory is true, it allows for > > > > us, as physical bodies, to exist throughout these other non space-time > > > > dimensions and move through them as we move through those we sense. > > > > So, you're not far off there, either, although I wouldn't say that you > > > > are IN heaven, just that you pass through it (and hell) while you > > > > exist here, although at a level which is completely undetectable. The > > > > bond of which you speak, I refer to as "that we are an extension of > > > > the energy that is" and that that energy is God's, as there is nothing > > > > else. As for your last statement, how can you hide from that which is > > > > omnipresent and how can you hide your knowledge from God when it isn't > > > > your knowledge, but His, that you have? The fact that the space-time > > > > continum contains a permanent record of all that we have done is a > > > > clear enough record to refer to and it will last for all time...by > > > > definition. > > > > > Pat To me the only important thing is God and my relationship with him > > and > > > > how to enhance it.. It is enough for me, my experience is that many > > people > > > try to explain what they can not explain the result is a mess of > > confusing > > > beliefs I think that is because they do not know what they are talking > > > about. For me I am in love with my God as I understand him and am > > willing > > > to share what I know. > > > LOL > > Sounds fair enough to me. I do know that I can ramble on about the > > finer details, but the general concepts you hold I can back up with my > > physics. > > > True but at least it is interesting reading.. > > > Over the years He (non gender) has show me wonders beyond what I could > > even > > > imagine. It is hard to express sometimes what has happened.. I know God > > is > > > real,, and I know everyone else has exactly the same connection.. there > > is > > > a lot to be said.. but I really have few questions,, the problem with > > me > > > is if I ask the answers tend to come.. the next question is do I > > really > > > want the answer. > > good > > > I can, so easily, relate to that. I, too, get answers, although I ask > > about the finer details. And the answers, as you imply, can be > > heavy. I suspect you do want the questions, as there is no other > > reason to ask. > > I follow what you have to say and I know you can relate. > > > I also approve of your clarification that 'He' is a > > non-gender-specific word. > > He is a common expression with out gender it allows for simplification > > Whoa Pat > > > That One is beyond gender, which is why He > > can't have children. Although all creatures are, in a metaphorical > > sense, His children, none are, in reality, because they do not grow up > > to be omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient. If any did, there'd be > > chaos, as how can you have two omnipotent entities? Logic doesn't > > allow for it. > > With your statement you just separated God from the rest of the universe!
Would you care to explain how I separated God from the universe? What part of my statement suggest that to you? It is not a belief of mine that God is separate from the universe, so, if I said something that you thought implied that, it was unintentional. In fact, I describe all parts of the universe as 'extensions' OF God, thereby joining every aspect of it to Him. If it was the phrase "all creatures are...His children", it was pure metaphor, in that, they are creations of His. The method of their creation, though, is through extension of His substance/essence, what I and science call 'energy', and there is no dismemberment of Deity involved. In fact, you can't be cut off either, as that would degrade the quality of omnipresence, which cannot be done if omnipresence is to be maintained. > To me that is one of greatest mistakes made by the religions of the world. > I do not want to separate God as I understand him from from his universe ,, > I only want to be part of it although it is only the tinest part.. as long > as I am part that. That is my dream > > Allan > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
