Well pat  one of the things I can not explain is what is beyond. . .

>
> True.  I agree.  Consciousness, in my physics, doesn't exist, per se,
> in this 4-D universe, rather, the interface to it exists here.
>

The concept of a 4--D universeis kind of strange because it fails to allow
you to be everywhere at the same time..

>
> > > , that is a very Islamic concept.
> >
> > It is not just Islamic and they did not originate it..
> >
>
> well  ..

> Again, true.  And Muslims would be happy to agree with that.  You have
> to go back to Abraham and, in truth, Noah and Adam, before all.  It's
> a Judeo/Christian/Islamic concept, because it is described that way in
> those scriptures revealed by "The God of Abraham".
>

from what i have read of the koran   they will not like my assessment ..
there is to much man in it people trying to be important.. and expand what
is said originally

>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >  If string theory is true, it allows for
> > > us, as physical bodies, to exist throughout these other non space-time
> > > dimensions and move through them as we move through those we sense.
> > > So, you're not far off there, either, although I wouldn't say that you
> > > are IN heaven, just that you pass through it (and hell) while you
> > > exist here, although at a level which is completely undetectable.  The
> > > bond of which you speak, I refer to as "that we are an extension of
> > > the energy that is" and that that energy is God's, as there is nothing
> > > else.  As for your last statement, how can you hide from that which is
> > > omnipresent and how can you hide your knowledge from God when it isn't
> > > your knowledge, but His, that you have?  The fact that the space-time
> > > continum contains a permanent record of all that we have done is a
> > > clear enough record to refer to and it will last for all time...by
> > > definition.
> >
> > > Pat  To me the only important thing is God and my relationship with him
> and
> >
> > how to enhance it.. It is enough for me, my experience is that many
> people
> > try to explain what they can not explain the result is a mess of
> confusing
> > beliefs I think that is because they do not  know what they are talking
> > about. For me I am in love with my God as I understand him  and am
> willing
> > to share what I know.
> >
>
> LOL


> Sounds fair enough to me.  I do know that I can ramble on about the
> finer details, but the general concepts you hold I can back up with my
> physics.
>
> True but at least it is interesting reading..


> > Over the years He (non gender) has show me wonders beyond what I could
> even
> > imagine. It is hard to express sometimes what has happened..  I know God
> is
> > real,, and I know everyone else has exactly the same connection..  there
> is
> > a lot to be said..  but I really have few questions,,  the problem with
> me
> > is if I ask   the answers tend to come..  the next question is do I
> really
> > want the answer.
>
>
good

> I can, so easily, relate to that.  I, too, get answers, although I ask
> about the finer details.  And the answers, as you imply, can be
> heavy.  I suspect you do want the questions, as there is no other
> reason to ask.


I follow what you have   to say and I know you can relate.


>  I also approve of your clarification that 'He' is a
> non-gender-specific word.


He is a common expression  with out gender it allows for simplification

Whoa Pat

>  That One is beyond gender, which is why He
> can't have children.  Although all creatures are, in a metaphorical
> sense, His children, none are, in reality, because they do not grow up
> to be omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient.  If any did, there'd be
> chaos, as how can you have two omnipotent entities?  Logic doesn't
> allow for it.
>

With your statement  you just separated God from the rest of the universe!
To me that is one of greatest mistakes made by the religions of the world.
I do not want to separate God as I understand him from from his universe ,,
I only want to be part of it   although it is only the tinest part.. as long
as I am part that. That is my dream

Allan

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