Yes, there are commonalities in all cultures, and each of us is a part of many groups and effected/affect the cultures of them. Relationship is dynamic, and the culture of every group (two or more) that we belong to is defined by the quality and processes of the interaction. We agree (or not), we adapt (or not), we collaborate or obstruct. Each group has an emotional, visual, material, relational etc., environment, and the culture can be felt in the tone of experience someone from the outside feels when entering.
On Mar 9, 5:14 pm, Doris Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote: > Molly, I like how you expressed this subject. Somethings in every culture > is the same in the basic. I said some not all. But I think different > culture's can be shared and be very good in education. On a personal note > with someone in another culture to me is almost the same in the > feelings,such as children, and haveing a loving heart towards one another. > This is what lays down the religion's and belief's. Say there was 20 of you > from different culture's ,and all of them are on a air plane and it starts > going down and crashes in the moutain's and all had to pull together in > order to make it. And in this experince there was things that was shared > and would always be remenbered...This is just an example. I think this is > what you are saying is it not? > > > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > Meh! I think you place too much emphasis on the vs, I really didn't > > mean it that way. > > > On 8 Mar, 21:53, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > "we like to work vs other similar internet forums" > > > The problem with the versus motivation is that there is no other > > > productive motivation left should the versus orientation disappear. I > > > mean, can't you see what has been happening to this group since the > > > pink bubble dreams were being poured into the threads? People go and > > > find their freedom fighter colleagues elsewhere. > > > > On 8 Mrz., 17:40, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hah I would go further and declare that all people fall into the > > > > confines of their culture. Seemingly includeing those of us that are > > > > rather counter culture orintated. > > > > > I would say though that we do have a culture here, we only need to > > > > look at the 'rules' here to see that a certian amount of respect is > > > > required for each other, that it is fine to attack whatever idea you > > > > like here as long as the attack Is on th eidea and not the person. > > > > Hah how many newbies do we get here that tell of their supprise on how > > > > we like to work vs other similar internet forums? For example. > > > > > We have seen also that it requires a period of time for some of these > > > > newcomers to get used to this. Suggesting of course that such is not > > > > widedly prevelant throughout Internet Forums. Indeed I think we can > > > > all attest to this? > > > > > On 8 Mar, 16:12, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I guess in that sense it is true. I'm thinking though, that a true > > > > > global culture would exist only from the view point of an > > > > > extraterrestrial as the earth culture, the culture of "Earthlings". > > > > > > The Earthling Culture, coming soon to a theater near you! > > > > > > I don't know that Minds Eye has a definite culture but just the > > > > > meeting of minds of different cultures. I wouldn't view us as a > > > > > distinct culture but just that we might be part of an Internet > > > > > Culture; we are not a culture of our own. > > > > > > By genetic culture I mean cultures that are derived from ethnicity, > > > > > where in most cases being born into and growing up within that > > culture > > > > > will dictate, with exceptions, behavioral patterns. I think cultures > > > > > can have a propensity towards specific behavior, which can and will > > be > > > > > affected by extenuating circumstance, that is understood. But > > > > > cultures will have their peculiarities and unique characteristics > > > > > regardless of the blending into a larger culture, like trolls in the > > > > > Internet culture. We can broadly identify the Internet Culture but > > > > > within the culture exists the trolls, flamers, etc. To integrate > > > > > cultures we have to see beyond cultural relativism which lends to > > > > > cultural stereotyping. In this sense maybe McKenna is correct, that > > > > > culture in many ways is not your friend. Attitudes can change > > > > > drastically in a room full of people who know nothing about each > > other > > > > > as soon as each shares their cultural heritage. McKenna makes a > > > > > strong point about not having to live up to ones cultural heritage > > and > > > > > I agree with that. Unfortunately most people fall into the confines > > > > > of their culture. > > > > > > On Mar 8, 8:08 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Yes Slip I agree. Well I agree that Global culture can only > > consist > > > > > > of multiple cultures. Well at the start anyway. > > > > > > > This is not a problem though, as Molly points out in the post a few > > > > > > above this one. There are cultures everywhere, Minds Eye has a > > > > > > definate cultre. > > > > > > > So with this in mind I find that I have to disagree that culture is > > > > > > somehow genetic. > > > > > > > Rather like the old argument about 'gender roles' I think there is > > > > > > scope to belive that culture is learnt behaviour and does not have > > any > > > > > > genetic basis. > > > > > > > Rigsy below also highlights for us the conept of teen culture. > > This > > > > > > certianly changes from generation to generation. > > > > > > > On 8 Mar, 13:12, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > We can strive for a global culture but one can only abandon the > > > > > > > culture of origin to a degree, hence we have African Americans > > and > > > > > > > American Indians. We can easily see that ones culture can > > dominate > > > > > > > behavior, something of a predictor of style and course in life, a > > > > > > > stereotypical behavior but no matter how much one can break away > > from > > > > > > > it there remains the cultural traits ingrained in the person, > > possibly > > > > > > > genetically bound. Global culture could only consist of multiple > > > > > > > cultures. > > > > > > > > On Mar 8, 6:38 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > It's a hard one alright. > > > > > > > > > I belive that culture is ultimatly divisive, yet we are all > > cuaght up > > > > > > > > in it. It defines us, perhaps then we should be striveing for > > the > > > > > > > > global culture? > > > > > > > > > On 7 Mar, 09:57, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I tend to agree culture is not our frien, yet it gives us the > > foundation > > > > > > > > > from which we need to examine our lives. > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Molly <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > "Culture is not your friend, no matter what your culture > > is. And this > > > > > > > > > > is sort of not a Politically Correct thing to say, because > > in the > > > > > > > > > > present ambience, (sort of, those who haven't gotten the > > word) there's > > > > > > > > > > a lot of attention to recovering our ethnic roots and to > > expressing > > > > > > > > > > our unique ethnicity, and so forth and so on -- I think > > that's the > > > > > > > > > > beginning of understanding. But all terms that stress > > ethnicity are > > > > > > > > > > words applied to groups of people. Have you ever noticed > > that? Have > > > > > > > > > > you ever noticed that you're not a group of people, you're > > a person? > > > > > > > > > > So you may be "Jewish", you may be "Black", you may be > > this, you may > > > > > > > > > > be that but there is no obligation to take upon yourself > > the > > > > > > > > > > generalized quality of these things, because the > > generalized qualities > > > > > > > > > > belong to thousands of people examined at a time. If you > > misunderstand > > > > > > > > > > that you become a caricature. You act out your ethnicity as > > a > > > > > > > > > > caricature. > > > > > > > > > > > So culture is not your friend, ideology is not your > > friend... Who's > > > > > > > > > > your friend? Well, to my mind, the felt presence of > > immediate > > > > > > > > > > experience is the surest dimension, the surest guide that > > you can > > > > > > > > > > possibly have. The felt presence of immediate experience. > > Feeling is > > > > > > > > > > primary. All rationalization and intellectualization and > > analysis is > > > > > > > > > > secondary, and comes out of culture. No matter what your > > culture is, > > > > > > > > > > it has answers. Cultures thinks up answers. So a child asks > > its mother > > > > > > > > > > a question, like, "Where do we go when we die?" or, "Why > > does Daddy go > > > > > > > > > > to work?" Cultural answers are always provided, but nobody > > knows the > > > > > > > > > > real answers to these questions -- that's outside of > > culture. So > > > > > > > > > > coming to terms and fully expressing your culture is like a > > stage in > > > > > > > > > > development. And then beyond that lies the aspiration of > > the felt > > > > > > > > > > presence of immediate experience, and its implications. > > It's a very > > > > > > > > > > hard thing to deal with and to do when you are poisoned > > with ideology. > > > > > > > > > > And ideologies are very difficult to deconstruct and rid > > yourself of > > > > > > > > > > through a simple talking therapy of some sort, through > > simply trying > > > > > > > > > > to work it out. The best antidote for ideology is to raise > > the > > > > > > > > > > intensity of the felt presence of experience to such > > excruciating > > > > > > > > > > levels that it simply vaporizes ideological illusion. And > > this is what > > > > > > > > > > psychedelics are for, I think. And it also explains (if > > you've ever > > > > > > > > > > wondered) the incredible phobia of these things on the part > > of the > > > > > > > > > > establishment, the incredibly deep alarm that these things > > trigger in > > > > > > > > > > people" - Terence McKenna > > >http://www.salvia-divinorum-scotland.co.uk/quotes/mckenna/cultureisno... > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > Google Groups > > > > > > > > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > > > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > ... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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