On 12 Mar, 13:16, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > Humans need escapism, it seems, to make actual life tolerable. >
Interesting thought. Now I'll play "Devil's Advocate" against myself (or, rather, against my own views) and ask, is it possible that religion developed as a form of escapism, because it serves to make life more tolerable for some? > On Mar 12, 4:46 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Or a subculture! > > > On 10 Mar, 19:04, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > "Each group has an emotional, visual, material, relational etc., > > > environment, and the culture can be felt in the tone of experience > > > someone from the outside feels when entering."- Molly > > > > An individual experience can be positive or negative and therefore > > > biased and in-apt to judge. This thread reminds me much of the one Lee > > > started about divine messages that transcend culture. I do, however, > > > like the idea of hallucinogenic drugs doing the trick. Though one > > > could say this is also a culture! > > > > On Mar 10, 9:14 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Yes, there are commonalities in all cultures, and each of us is a part > > > > of many groups and effected/affect the cultures of them. Relationship > > > > is dynamic, and the culture of every group (two or more) that we > > > > belong to is defined by the quality and processes of the interaction. > > > > We agree (or not), we adapt (or not), we collaborate or obstruct. > > > > Each group has an emotional, visual, material, relational etc., > > > > environment, and the culture can be felt in the tone of experience > > > > someone from the outside feels when entering. > > > > > On Mar 9, 5:14 pm, Doris Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Molly, I like how you expressed this subject. Somethings in every > > > > > culture > > > > > is the same in the basic. I said some not all. But I think different > > > > > culture's can be shared and be very good in education. On a personal > > > > > note > > > > > with someone in another culture to me is almost the same in the > > > > > feelings,such as children, and haveing a loving heart towards one > > > > > another. > > > > > This is what lays down the religion's and belief's. Say there was 20 > > > > > of you > > > > > from different culture's ,and all of them are on a air plane and it > > > > > starts > > > > > going down and crashes in the moutain's and all had to pull together > > > > > in > > > > > order to make it. And in this experince there was things that was > > > > > shared > > > > > and would always be remenbered...This is just an example. I think > > > > > this is > > > > > what you are saying is it not? > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Meh! I think you place too much emphasis on the vs, I really didn't > > > > > > mean it that way. > > > > > > > On 8 Mar, 21:53, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > "we like to work vs other similar internet forums" > > > > > > > The problem with the versus motivation is that there is no other > > > > > > > productive motivation left should the versus orientation > > > > > > > disappear. I > > > > > > > mean, can't you see what has been happening to this group since > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > pink bubble dreams were being poured into the threads? People go > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > find their freedom fighter colleagues elsewhere. > > > > > > > > On 8 Mrz., 17:40, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hah I would go further and declare that all people fall into the > > > > > > > > confines of their culture. Seemingly includeing those of us > > > > > > > > that are > > > > > > > > rather counter culture orintated. > > > > > > > > > I would say though that we do have a culture here, we only need > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > look at the 'rules' here to see that a certian amount of > > > > > > > > respect is > > > > > > > > required for each other, that it is fine to attack whatever > > > > > > > > idea you > > > > > > > > like here as long as the attack Is on th eidea and not the > > > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > Hah how many newbies do we get here that tell of their supprise > > > > > > > > on how > > > > > > > > we like to work vs other similar internet forums? For example. > > > > > > > > > We have seen also that it requires a period of time for some of > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > newcomers to get used to this. Suggesting of course that such > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > widedly prevelant throughout Internet Forums. Indeed I think > > > > > > > > we can > > > > > > > > all attest to this? > > > > > > > > > On 8 Mar, 16:12, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I guess in that sense it is true. I'm thinking though, that > > > > > > > > > a true > > > > > > > > > global culture would exist only from the view point of an > > > > > > > > > extraterrestrial as the earth culture, the culture of > > > > > > > > > "Earthlings". > > > > > > > > > > The Earthling Culture, coming soon to a theater near you! > > > > > > > > > > I don't know that Minds Eye has a definite culture but just > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > meeting of minds of different cultures. I wouldn't view us > > > > > > > > > as a > > > > > > > > > distinct culture but just that we might be part of an Internet > > > > > > > > > Culture; we are not a culture of our own. > > > > > > > > > > By genetic culture I mean cultures that are derived from > > > > > > > > > ethnicity, > > > > > > > > > where in most cases being born into and growing up within that > > > > > > culture > > > > > > > > > will dictate, with exceptions, behavioral patterns. I think > > > > > > > > > cultures > > > > > > > > > can have a propensity towards specific behavior, which can > > > > > > > > > and will > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > affected by extenuating circumstance, that is understood. But > > > > > > > > > cultures will have their peculiarities and unique > > > > > > > > > characteristics > > > > > > > > > regardless of the blending into a larger culture, like trolls > > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > Internet culture. We can broadly identify the Internet > > > > > > > > > Culture but > > > > > > > > > within the culture exists the trolls, flamers, etc. To > > > > > > > > > integrate > > > > > > > > > cultures we have to see beyond cultural relativism which > > > > > > > > > lends to > > > > > > > > > cultural stereotyping. In this sense maybe McKenna is > > > > > > > > > correct, that > > > > > > > > > culture in many ways is not your friend. Attitudes can change > > > > > > > > > drastically in a room full of people who know nothing about > > > > > > > > > each > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > as soon as each shares their cultural heritage. McKenna > > > > > > > > > makes a > > > > > > > > > strong point about not having to live up to ones cultural > > > > > > > > > heritage > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > I agree with that. Unfortunately most people fall into the > > > > > > > > > confines > > > > > > > > > of their culture. > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 8, 8:08 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Slip I agree. Well I agree that Global culture can only > > > > > > consist > > > > > > > > > > of multiple cultures. Well at the start anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > This is not a problem though, as Molly points out in the > > > > > > > > > > post a few > > > > > > > > > > above this one. There are cultures everywhere, Minds Eye > > > > > > > > > > has a > > > > > > > > > > definate cultre. > > > > > > > > > > > So with this in mind I find that I have to disagree that > > > > > > > > > > culture is > > > > > > > > > > somehow genetic. > > > > > > > > > > > Rather like the old argument about 'gender roles' I think > > > > > > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > > > scope to belive that culture is learnt behaviour and does > > > > > > > > > > not have > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > genetic basis. > > > > > > > > > > > Rigsy below also highlights for us the conept of teen > > > > > > > > > > culture. > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > certianly changes from generation to generation. > > > > > > > > > > > On 8 Mar, 13:12, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > We can strive for a global culture but one can only > > > > > > > > > > > abandon the > > > > > > > > > > > culture of origin to a degree, hence we have African > > > > > > > > > > > Americans > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > American Indians. We can easily see that ones culture can > > > > > > dominate > > > > > > > > > > > behavior, something of a predictor of style and course in > > > > > > > > > > > life, a > > > > > > > > > > > stereotypical behavior but no matter how much one can > > > > > > > > > > > break away > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > it there remains the cultural traits ingrained in the > > > > > > > > > > > person, > > > > > > possibly > > > > > > > > > > > genetically bound. Global culture could only consist of > > > > > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > > cultures. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 8, 6:38 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a hard one alright. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I belive that culture is ultimatly divisive, yet we are > > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > cuaght up > > > > > > > > > > > > in it. It defines us, perhaps then we should be > > > > > > > > > > > > striveing for > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > global culture? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7 Mar, 09:57, iam deheretic <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tend to agree culture is not our frien, yet it > > > > > > > > > > > > > gives us the > > > > > > foundation > > > > > > > > > > > > > from which we need to examine our lives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Molly > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Culture is not your friend, no matter what your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > culture > > > > > > is. And this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is sort of not a Politically Correct thing to say, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > present ambience, (sort of, those who haven't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gotten the > > > > > > word) there's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a lot of attention to recovering our ethnic roots > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and to > > > > > > expressing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our unique ethnicity, and so forth and so on -- I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think > > > > > > that's the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beginning of understanding. But all terms that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stress > > > > > > ethnicity are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words applied to groups of people. Have you ever > > > > > > > > > > > > > > noticed > > > > > > that? Have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you ever noticed that you're not a group of people, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're > > > > > > a person? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you may be "Jewish", you may be "Black", you may > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > this, you may > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be that but there is no obligation to take upon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > generalized quality of these things, because the > > > > > > generalized qualities > > > > > > > > > > > > > > belong to thousands of people examined at a time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you > > > > > > misunderstand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that you become a caricature. You act out your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ethnicity as > > > > > > a > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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