Yes you have. Unless you don't open up for the "Have i CHANGED the experiment?" also.
On 10 Mrz., 14:43, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > each state has its own boundaries, until there are none. This is my > observation. Have I changed the experiment? > > On Mar 10, 12:15 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I think there is more agreement between science and non-mad- > > manipulative religious-spiritual 'sensing' here than is generally > > understood Molly. Questions as to what the 'witnessing' is remain and > > can be open in principle in both and poor reasoning in both and false > > claims about the capta can be exposed to criticism. Whilst my mind > > turns to such ponderables as the 'dark flow' and the content of > > 'emptiness' - parts of the universe apparently speeding beyond light > > speed to a single point and 'emptiness' as containing much more than > > light makes available to senses as we understand them - there are > > other questions as to what we are taking as evidence and theory. Once > > one can think of light-speed, 'empty space has friction', a very > > different situation to our general conceptualisations of how brakes > > work. > > > On 9 Mar, 20:03, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > "Questions as to whether we can 'witness' this > > > remain open. " > > > > Yes! Open to viewpoint. > > > > On Mar 9, 12:28 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > In terms of such exploration Molly, we operate in several trillion > > > > tons of Higgs' Field per cubic centimetre, balanced out (guesses only) > > > > in 'empty space' that is the most influential operator in the > > > > universe. Otherwise, we'd be discumbobulated at the speed of light. > > > > There is always much 'there' we don't sense in the standard way we > > > > think about sensing. Emptiness is not ... I often wonder what we will > > > > come to experience. Questions as to whether we can 'witness' this > > > > remain open. > > > > > On 9 Mar, 14:24, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > *Interesting note: > > > > > In quantum channels, zero plus zero can equal non-zero: "(PhysOrg.com) > > > > > -- Physicists have discovered a strange characteristic of quantum > > > > > communication channels. If two quantum channels each have a > > > > > transmission capacity of zero, they may still have a nonzero capacity > > > > > when used together. This effect, which has no classical counterpart, > > > > > reveals a new complexity in the fundamental nature of quantum > > > > > communication." > > > > > > I think it is important, Neil, and always there, even on subtle levels > > > > > we may not consciously detect. > > > > > > On Mar 9, 12:20 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I think I know what you mean Vam; yet there remains a need to > > > > > > recognise reality more fully in public dialogue. > > > > > > > On 8 Mar, 13:32, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > what I found most interesting about this practice of keeping the > > > > > > > mind > > > > > > > clear of compulsive, obsessive or distracting though is that the > > > > > > > resulting quiet mind becomes a habit, and my immediate > > > > > > > surroundings > > > > > > > are more peaceful, the flow of experience less disruptive. It > > > > > > > truly > > > > > > > does set the tone inside and out. > > > > > > > > On Mar 8, 1:11 am, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mar 8, 5:12 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I would guess many people are now seeing through the faking > > > > > > > > > Molly, but > > > > > > > > > this isn't enough to move the social strategy on. > > > > > > > > > Perhaps you'll have reasons to relent on this dark thought in > > > > > > > > time, > > > > > > > > quite as you've done on the faking front ! > > > > > > > > > I believe, we have a responsibility, a duty, not to load the > > > > > > > > world > > > > > > > > about us with our negative and desperate thoughts. One can have > > > > > > > > them, > > > > > > > > as we all do, but must have learnt through life not to allow > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > space or importance to them within ourself, to the exclusion of > > > > > > > > others. Ideally, we should be capable ( yes, it is a capability > > > > > > > > ! ) of > > > > > > > > wiping off our frowns and despair, our melancholy and defeatist > > > > > > > > urgings, before stepping out of our bed / room / house. It's a > > > > > > > > tough > > > > > > > > job, where most decent and righteous people fail, inadvertently > > > > > > > > strengthening the hands of the indecent, the illiberal and the > > > > > > > > unjust. > > > > > > > > > All's well, even our despair, defeats and losses ! Let me > > > > > > > > paraphrase > > > > > > > > a Buddha quote : Your work is to discover your world and then, > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > all your heart, give yourself to it. > > > > > > > > > Nothing can be more practical than that. No space or time for > > > > > > > > arguments. Only the realisation ... yes, our work is well > > > > > > > > etched and > > > > > > > > cut out ... and the extent of execution. > > > > > > > > > > On 4 Mar, 10:01, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > fake honesty! Oh lovely paradox! > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 4, 1:06 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we need the honesty route too Molly. I simply > > > > > > > > > > > fear it's too > > > > > > > > > > > easy to fake and that we need some way to take on 'dirty > > > > > > > > > > > hands' > > > > > > > > > > > assumptions in the open. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4 Mar, 01:13, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > "As for honesty, it depends on ones > > > > > > > > > > > > culture but generally we repress honesty through > > > > > > > > > > > > etiquette and > > > > > > > > > > > > education and dishonesty in varying degrees becomes > > > > > > > > > > > > acceptable. I do > > > > > > > > > > > > understand Molly thoughts about family keeping one > > > > > > > > > > > > straight but often > > > > > > > > > > > > this backfires" > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure if dishonesty is culturally acceptable, > > > > > > > > > > > > but there is a > > > > > > > > > > > > great deal of it going on between people in society. I > > > > > > > > > > > > think we do > > > > > > > > > > > > ourselves and the world a disfavor when we rationalize > > > > > > > > > > > > our own > > > > > > > > > > > > dishonesty by saying that others do it so why not me. > > > > > > > > > > > > My experience > > > > > > > > > > > > is, that in direct relationships of every kind, people > > > > > > > > > > > > appreciate > > > > > > > > > > > > honesty and tire easily of dishonesty. And dishonesty > > > > > > > > > > > > with self only > > > > > > > > > > > > creates limitation, so what we think is easing our pain > > > > > > > > > > > > or making the > > > > > > > > > > > > situation easier, is really only keeping us from what > > > > > > > > > > > > we think might > > > > > > > > > > > > be uncomfortable or difficult, and in the long run, > > > > > > > > > > > > prolongs the > > > > > > > > > > > > agony. It may be difficult and painful to take an > > > > > > > > > > > > honest look at > > > > > > > > > > > > ourselves, but moving through fear is the only way to > > > > > > > > > > > > dissipate it and > > > > > > > > > > > > ease the pain and suffering. Can't avoid or deny it. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are ways to > > > > > > > > > > > > communicate with loved ones with honesty that allows > > > > > > > > > > > > for open doors > > > > > > > > > > > > and open hearts, the way to reconciliation. Do we > > > > > > > > > > > > really want to > > > > > > > > > > > > perpetuate the misery in the world, or can we have the > > > > > > > > > > > > courage to > > > > > > > > > > > > insist on honesty with ourselves and others, and show a > > > > > > > > > > > > better way? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 2, 9:35 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As soon as my head hit the pillow I remembered the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cold War and its > > > > > > > > > > > > > impact on the Middle East and Africa.//Will check > > > > > > > > > > > > > back as I just > > > > > > > > > > > > > printed a coupon for 50% off and I feel rich! A new > > > > > > > > > > > > > non-stick muffin > > > > > > > > > > > > > tin and farewell to muffin liners! Yipee! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 2, 1:37 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One can put much of the blame on French and British > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mapmakers carving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up the Ottoman Empire after WWI- they showed little > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regard for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > natural boundaries of tribes and warlords. Also, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the importance of oil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was an enormous factor- for instance, I feel Kuwait > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was created as an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ace in the hole since Iraq could be intractable.But > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one could also go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back to Napoleon's expedition to Egypt or the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crusades or the split of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Christianity between the West and the Byzantine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Empire. At any rate a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > balance of power failed in Europe as well as the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > modern Middle East.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am discovering ancient China as I hadn't known much > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about it- am up to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Sung Dynasty but the Mongols are right around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the corner! I may > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have to read it twice as it's hard to keep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything straight since > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this survey of civilization includes a great many > > > > > > > > > > > > > > examples of the arts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and religious influences.//You may also want to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think about the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inequities between rich and poor nations or even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > within nations as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cause of conflict and misery.//As for honesty, it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depends on ones > > > > > > > > > > > > > > culture but generally we repress honesty through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etiquette and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > education and dishonesty in varying degrees becomes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > acceptable. I do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand Molly thoughts about family keeping one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > straight but often > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this backfires hence sayings about keeping one's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own counsel or the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > danger of what can't be unsaid, etc.//Back to Eden- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disobedience, then a lie and later a murder- not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > much of start for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 1, 7:40 pm, archytas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was thinking back to an earlier post of yours > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > earlier Slip - the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Muslim threat'. I see 5 American Jihadis have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been arrested in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pakistan. We had a 'Dispatches' (Channel 4 here) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentary on the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IFE (Islamic Forum Europe). Very > > ... > > Erfahren Sie mehr » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
