Hehheh here is the thing though Fidds. Unless you can show me proof that there is no God then your 'strong' stance is every bit a 'ridiculous concept' as my belife in a creative God, is it not?
You accuse Vam here of not being able to stand outside of his perspective, does this mean that you are able to pull such a trick? I only ask as your typical vitriotic posts seem to suggest that you also are not capable of such a feat. On 8 Apr, 15:11, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > You have placed me in grand company indeed. Every atheist that wants > the end of this ridiculous concept of god, or has been vocal about > gods non-existence, is accused of being angry at god. This is the > default response of a theist who cannot stand outside their own > perspective or accept that they are, in all likelihood, wrong. > > On Apr 7, 11:34 pm, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Indeed, that is my own perception too. Which leaves the image of a > > person who is inconsistent enough to say God does not exist and that > > God is evil ! > > > On Apr 8, 12:49 am, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Fiddler, > > > > I first want to say that you are savoir faire at formulating your > > > opinion, and think they challenge to think about. Secondly I do not > > > understand why you make a personal attack by saying someone is > > > ridicules. For example: Lee your ideas about Evil are stupid because > > > Evil is only a concept. (words are always concepts there ain't no > > > words that fully describe their meaning) Why is Lee his idea about > > > Evil stupid? > > > 3 I get the feeling that you are angry at God because God ain't there, > > > and that this is the result because your beliefs about God have hurt > > > you in the past. (not believing in God is something else than being > > > angry as a result of denial) What happened? > > > > I have pointed this out because I think it is hurts people to personal > > > attack their ideas and it is better to refute ideas/concepts if you > > > want to philosophise. (I think this also counts for more people) > > > > Greets, > > > Matthijs > > > > On Mar 28, 1:20 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I've been terribly busy lately. > > > > > An interesting moment happened lately. A woman that I ran logistics on > > > > for her escape from Palestine insisted on thanking me... I hope that > > > > never happens again... > > > > She didn't speak English and her translator ( provided by the sponsor > > > > I'd arranged here as well as get her trunk space out of palestine) was > > > > almost fawning... ecckkk > > > > I much prefer my charity to be unknown to it's recipients... > > > > She escaped islam in Palestine and I'm very glad to help. Rather than > > > > be slaughtered for "dishonouring" her daddy by being raped by her > > > > daddy and her brothers (yes that still happens daily in islamic > > > > countries) she chose to leave and I helped organise her escape. Two > > > > people I knew were killed in the operation, one because he was an > > > > apostate and the other for being with him. Yes, both are a crime > > > > punishable by death according to islam. > > > > > I asked whether or not she would remain true to life and love,c > > > > forgoing the cult of murder and death that I helped her escape. She > > > > attempted to adjust a head covering that no longer hid her beautiful > > > > hair. Looking sheepish, she responded that : "No matter how I may miss > > > > what I had [family], I can actually look myself in the mirror without > > > > bruises." > > > > > This may seem silly to some of you, but please -just once in a while- > > > > put yourself in the place of these women that enjoy 'around the clock' > > > > physical, emotional, and mental abuse. No woman deserves islam. > > > > > To lee: > > > > I find such a fault in your idea that evil need exist for free choice > > > > to exist... > > > > > So, according to you, A man need be able to rape in order to choose > > > > love? > > > > > Your god (i draw this from your comments) HAD to create evil in order > > > > to give us free will. > > > > > That's a really sick and disgusting concept. > > > > > Your god: " here people! Eat this delicious and poisonously deadly > > > > chocolate cake!... or ... you know... you could have this little > > > > tasteless wafer of good...." > > > > > Any other loving parent: "here's an apple, an orange, a cookie, or > > > > leftovers... johnnie! get away from the poisoned rat-trap!" > > > > > Your concept is based on a ridiculous idea that there is only good vs. > > > > evil, and that any choice must be between the two. If your god > > > > existed, he could have given us such a variety of choice and > > > > experience that it would boggle a human mind... without "evil" > > > > entering the equation. Evil is a human concept and so is the silly god- > > > > myth. We have the capacity for being nice and for not being nice. No > > > > god needed. > > > > > My children have the free will to choose between oranges and apples > > > > every single day, that is free choice. It is only a sick little > > > > Canaanite separatist movement's god from around 300 b.c.e. that says > > > > each child must choose between eternal damnation and slavery to their > > > > daddy.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
