Then you haven't read my responses, you've projected your opinion. I
am, most likely, the least emotional person here. I am passionate in
my beliefs and sincerely despise the crushing amount of murder, theft,
rape, destruction, etc., that religion breeds.

On Apr 7, 10:59 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Fiddler personally I think you are the most angry person in the group.. your
> previous response say your ate angry with God..  your Arch-rival..  you are
> so full of hate it boils over.. to the point you become irrational.
> Sorry that is just the way I view you, the image you project.
> Allan
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:37 AM, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I'm not angry at god. I'm also not angry at Huck Finn, Captain Ahab,
> > or Odysseus. It's a silly waste of time to try being angry at
> > fictional characters. The only difference between the three I list and
> > the one you did, is that no one slaughters, rapes, maims, steals from,
> > condemns, etc., other people because they believe that Huck or Ahab
> > told them to.
> > I didn't call lee ridiculous, I called my interpretation of his idea
> > ridiculous. An idea that is put forth in a discussion group may be
> > bolstered, torn up, rounded upon, elevated, etc..
>
> > On Apr 7, 12:49 pm, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Fiddler,
>
> > > I first want to say that you are savoir faire at formulating your
> > > opinion, and think they challenge to think about. Secondly I do not
> > > understand why you make a personal attack by saying someone is
> > > ridicules. For example: Lee your ideas about Evil are stupid because
> > > Evil is only a concept. (words are always concepts there ain't no
> > > words that fully describe their meaning) Why is Lee his idea about
> > > Evil stupid?
> > > 3 I get the feeling that you are angry at God because God ain't there,
> > > and that this is the result because your beliefs about God have hurt
> > > you in the past. (not believing in God is something else than being
> > > angry as a result of denial) What happened?
>
> > > I have pointed this out because I think it is hurts people to personal
> > > attack their ideas and it is better to refute ideas/concepts if you
> > > want to philosophise. (I think this also counts for more people)
>
> > > Greets,
> > > Matthijs
>
> > > On Mar 28, 1:20 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I've been terribly busy lately.
>
> > > > An interesting moment happened lately. A woman that I ran logistics on
> > > > for her escape from Palestine insisted on thanking me... I hope that
> > > > never happens again...
> > > > She didn't speak English and her translator ( provided by the sponsor
> > > > I'd arranged here as well as get her trunk space out of palestine) was
> > > > almost fawning... ecckkk
> > > > I much prefer my charity to be unknown to it's recipients...
> > > > She escaped islam in Palestine and I'm very glad to help. Rather than
> > > > be slaughtered for "dishonouring" her daddy by being raped by her
> > > > daddy and her brothers (yes that still happens daily in islamic
> > > > countries) she chose to leave and I helped organise her escape. Two
> > > > people I knew were killed in the operation, one because he was an
> > > > apostate and the other for being with him. Yes, both are a crime
> > > > punishable by death according to islam.
>
> > > > I asked whether or not she would remain true to life and love,c
> > > > forgoing the cult of murder and death that I helped her escape. She
> > > > attempted to adjust a head covering that no longer hid her beautiful
> > > > hair. Looking sheepish, she responded that : "No matter how I may miss
> > > > what I had [family], I can actually look myself in the mirror without
> > > > bruises."
>
> > > > This may seem silly to some of you, but please -just once in a while-
> > > > put yourself in the place of these women that enjoy 'around the clock'
> > > > physical, emotional, and mental abuse. No woman deserves islam.
>
> > > > To lee:
> > > > I find such a fault in your idea that evil need exist for free choice
> > > > to exist...
>
> > > > So, according to you, A man need be able to rape in order to choose
> > > > love?
>
> > > > Your god (i draw this from your comments) HAD to create evil in order
> > > > to give us free will.
>
> > > > That's a really sick and disgusting concept.
>
> > > > Your god: " here people! Eat this delicious and poisonously deadly
> > > > chocolate cake!... or ... you know... you could have this little
> > > > tasteless wafer of good...."
>
> > > > Any other loving parent: "here's an apple, an orange, a cookie, or
> > > > leftovers... johnnie! get away from the poisoned rat-trap!"
>
> > > > Your concept is based on a ridiculous idea that there is only good vs.
> > > > evil, and that any choice must be between the two. If your god
> > > > existed, he could have given us such a variety of choice and
> > > > experience that it would boggle a human mind... without "evil"
> > > > entering the equation. Evil is a human concept and so is the silly god-
> > > > myth. We have the capacity for being nice and for not being nice. No
> > > > god needed.
>
> > > > My children have the free will to choose between oranges and apples
> > > > every single day, that is free choice. It is only a sick little
> > > > Canaanite separatist movement's god from around 300 b.c.e. that says
> > > > each child must choose between eternal damnation and slavery to their
> > > > daddy.
>
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